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    Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.

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      @SBW1

      Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.

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      @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

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      Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.

      At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed

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        @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

        @SBW1

        Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.

        At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed

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        @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

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          @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

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          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

          @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

          Oh yeah because converting a wing into a centre has worked well for us. No thank you. How about we give our specialists a go for once.

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            Blues are really leaving their run late. Lots of players need to hit form in order to get into the Abs. Can't see Razor leaving guys like Telea and Ioane out regardless of form. Injury is the only thing that opens up opportunity so it seems.

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              @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

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              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

              He probably has more of the requisite skills than Rieko....

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                @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

                @SBW1

                Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.

                At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed

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                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @DMX said in All Blacks 2025:

                @SBW1

                Exactly!!! I feel like Rees and Telea just don’t have raw speed and x- factor for test level. I wish selectors would understand when it is time to move on.

                At least Telea is still elusive, in a Corey Jane sort of way. His game was never about all out speed

                Yes game never about all out speed which is why I don’t want him there! Give me speed merchants!! He works hard but sometimes he is trying too hard to get his hands on the ball, like playing half back then throwing a crap pass!!

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                  @nostrildamus @Canes4life I actually agree with you both equally.

                  Whilst I would love to see it as a leftfield option I also think a good specialist needs to be there too.

                  Sitting on this fence is hurting my arse.....

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                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

                    Oh yeah because converting a wing into a centre has worked well for us. No thank you. How about we give our specialists a go for once.

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                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @canefan I really think Telea has midfield potential, so strong in the tackle and so slippery when tacklers aren't paying attention.

                    Oh yeah because converting a wing into a centre has worked well for us. No thank you. How about we give our specialists a go for once.

                    1. I know this is the AB thread but I am not saying he should be an AB 12/13.
                    2. Tana moved to centre, seemed to do ok.
                    3. Specialists. Don't have many quality ones that aren't injured.
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                      For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10. The Telea from the Landers is a midfielder isn't he?

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                        Personally I think Telea would be horrible in the midfield, unless you want a midfield which whenever they get the ball... stops, cuts inside, and runs completely as an individual.
                        He's very very evasive and hard to put down, which are great qualities - but a wing or nothing.

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                          yeah, a 28 year old career winger is absolutely someone who should be mentioned in an AB thread as a centre option...

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                            For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10. The Telea from the Landers is a midfielder isn't he?

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                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10. The Telea from the Landers is a midfielder isn't he?

                            Oh let me tone it down, I think it suits his skillset more but it is late in both his career and the Blues season. I don't think it is likely this year or next.

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                              yeah, a 28 year old career winger is absolutely someone who should be mentioned in an AB thread as a centre option...

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                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              yeah, a 28 year old career winger is absolutely someone who should be mentioned in an AB thread as a centre option...

                              Did say I know this is an AB thread but didn't say he should be an AB midfielder.

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                                @nostrildamus @Canes4life I actually agree with you both equally.

                                Whilst I would love to see it as a leftfield option I also think a good specialist needs to be there too.

                                Sitting on this fence is hurting my arse.....

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                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @nostrildamus @Canes4life I actually agree with you both equally.

                                Whilst I would love to see it as a leftfield option I also think a good specialist needs to be there too.

                                Sitting on this fence is hurting my arse.....

                                We have limited midfield options, not sure what has been happening in Super rugby. I can name some 12s but less quality/uninjured 13s.

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                                  For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10. The Telea from the Landers is a midfielder isn't he?

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                                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10

                                  Or play league. Then you would suggest him

                                  As for Nostrildamus suggesting Telea as a centre it really is a terrible call. His skillset is wing and nothing else. Everything that he does well on the wing doesn't translate to the midfield. He does not set targets, he goes on random runs often going backwards to go forwards etc etc

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                                    Personally I think Telea would be horrible in the midfield, unless you want a midfield which whenever they get the ball... stops, cuts inside, and runs completely as an individual.
                                    He's very very evasive and hard to put down, which are great qualities - but a wing or nothing.

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                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10

                                      Or play league. Then you would suggest him

                                      As for Nostrildamus suggesting Telea as a centre it really is a terrible call. His skillset is wing and nothing else. Everything that he does well on the wing doesn't translate to the midfield. He does not set targets, he goes on random runs often going backwards to go forwards etc etc

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      For Telea to be tried at centre, it would need to be something the Blues would try, at this stage of the comp and where they are now it is akin to Havilli being tried out as a 10

                                      Or play league. Then you would suggest him

                                      As for Nostrildamus suggesting Telea as a centre it really is a terrible call. His skillset is wing and nothing else. Everything that he does well on the wing doesn't translate to the midfield. He does not set targets, he goes on random runs often going backwards to go forwards etc etc

                                      12 not 13. But I am overruled. Fair enough.

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                                        All five of these look IMHO a better bet in 2025 for the All Blacks XV squad rather than the full ABs squad.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360628068/super-rugby-are-these-five-uncapped-players-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertsons-radar

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                                          All five of these look IMHO a better bet in 2025 for the All Blacks XV squad rather than the full ABs squad.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360628068/super-rugby-are-these-five-uncapped-players-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertsons-radar

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          All five of these look IMHO a better bet in 2025 for the All Blacks XV squad rather than the full ABs squad.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360628068/super-rugby-are-these-five-uncapped-players-all-blacks-coach-scott-robertsons-radar

                                          I'd argue Kirifi is probably the one that has done his time in the AB XV and is ready to step up. To me he's the best 7 in the country atm, he's matured so much in the last couple of years and the leadership skills he would bring to the ABs would be invaluable.

                                          All this bullshit that he's too small is nonsense to me, just look at someone like Tizzano who's able to be impactful at test level and he's even smaller than Kirifi.

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