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All Blacks 2025

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  • A ARHS

    Is there any official line on All Black rest requirements this year? Quite varied between teams and some players being played for maximum minutes.
    Could make a real difference at pointy end of the competition if enforced. Or do the extra byes and injury complications just leave coaches open to do what they want to?

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    @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

    Is there any official line on All Black rest requirements this year? Quite varied between teams and some players being played for maximum minutes.
    Could make a real difference at pointy end of the competition if enforced. Or do the extra byes and injury complications just leave coaches open to do what they want to?

    Tailored to the individual

    https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-11-2021/dvYs6x.gif

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      From Herald article

      That is the disappearance – or maybe more accurately, “rescoping” – of the dreaded All Blacks rest weeks. These enforced breaks have plagued the competition for nearly 20 years, ever since the dreaded rest-and-rotation debacle of 2007.

      The competition has been hamstrung by having top talent sit out the best matches because of varying rules – not being able to play five matches in a row or needing to rest for two games per season were a couple of the different variations.
      Hard-and-fast rules have gone out the window; now the approach is more focused on individuals, recognising that a one-size-fits all approach hardly works in rugby.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.

        When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.

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        #1249

        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

        When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.

        You're right, instead we got mainstays like Latimer and de Malmanche.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.

          You're right, instead we got mainstays like Latimer and de Malmanche.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          Latimer

          you keep is name out yo fucken mouth

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            Latimer

            you keep is name out yo fucken mouth

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            Latimer

            you keep is name out yo fucken mouth

            Swap him for Luke Braid or Callum Retallick then...

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            • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

              Kirifi and Tangitau are two that deserve to get themselves in there.

              The conversation around incumbents v uncapped is that the uncapped player has to be clearly better. If they are as good, then the incumbent stays.

              As much as I really like Jim Tavatavanawai. I can't see him ever being an All Black. He is the perfect super rugby player. Just probably isn't an international quality 12 or winger. While his fetching may not be required if there are other players that bring the skillset in the team.

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              @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

              The conversation around incumbents v uncapped is that the uncapped player has to be clearly better. If they are as good, then the incumbent stays

              The incumbent needs to demonstrate the ability at test level.

              Let's take Havili.

              Havili was rocks and diamonds vs Chiefs but those frailties haven't been exposed by the other teams

              It's no wonder when you look at those other teams Crusaders have played

              • understrength Canes midfield
              • understrength Reds 10-12
              • understrength Force
              • deadshit 2025 Blues

              Carving up vs the above teams tells us exactly what in relation to Havili at test level? Fuck all

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                Kirifi really needs to be given good game time to see what he can bring.

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                • Landers92L Do not disturb
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                  Mr Caleb Tangitau, yet again in a losing team is a clear man of the match. The black jersey awaits.

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                    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/other/this-is-stuff-people-haven-t-heard-from-my-mouth-richie-mo-unga-makes-big-rugby-world-cup-admission/ar-AA1BQczg?ocid=BingNewsSerp

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      Mr Caleb Tangitau, yet again in a losing team is a clear man of the match. The black jersey awaits.

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                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Mr Caleb Tangitau, yet again in a losing team is a clear man of the match. The black jersey awaits.

                      100% Be nice to have a winger with pace

                      But it is unlikely to happen I bet.

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                        Ruben Love should be in the main squad this year. Absolutely ready for the big time.

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                        • D Darren

                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Mr Caleb Tangitau, yet again in a losing team is a clear man of the match. The black jersey awaits.

                          100% Be nice to have a winger with pace

                          But it is unlikely to happen I bet.

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                          @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Mr Caleb Tangitau, yet again in a losing team is a clear man of the match. The black jersey awaits.

                          100% Be nice to have a winger with pace

                          But it is unlikely to happen I bet.

                          He's got a lot more than just pace, vision and decision making is top notch, plus not averse to linking with his team.

                          As I said in the game thread, really reminds me of Tana.

                          But yeah, got to get past Fihaki first.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Ruben Love should be in the main squad this year. Absolutely ready for the big time.

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Ruben Love should be in the main squad this year. Absolutely ready for the big time.

                            I have a horn on me a cat wouldnt scratch to see him play 10.

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                              Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

                                Iose put in a great performance at 6, if he can maintain that and his form at 8, Blackadder can bugger off too.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

                                  Iose put in a great performance at 6, if he can maintain that and his form at 8, Blackadder can bugger off too.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

                                  Iose put in a great performance at 6, if he can maintain that and his form at 8, Blackadder can bugger off too.

                                  Iose has had a really slow start to this year but good to see him finally hitting him some form. Hope they keep him there, the Iose, Kirifi, Lakai trio is quite dynamic but they seem to compliment each other nicely.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

                                    Iose put in a great performance at 6, if he can maintain that and his form at 8, Blackadder can bugger off too.

                                    Iose has had a really slow start to this year but good to see him finally hitting him some form. Hope they keep him there, the Iose, Kirifi, Lakai trio is quite dynamic but they seem to compliment each other nicely.

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                                    @Canes4life yeah he certainly played a lot "tougher" than usual yesterday, although stats would be interesting.

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                                      @Canes4life yeah he certainly played a lot "tougher" than usual yesterday, although stats would be interesting.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Canes4life yeah he certainly played a lot "tougher" than usual yesterday, although stats would be interesting.

                                      Roberston won't pick any of these guys anyway (Kirifi/Iose). He's almost certain to pick world beaters like Grace and Blackadder because they've looked good at home against an understrength Force, Canes and Reds team.

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                                        There is something about seeing a big dude running from the back fence. Seeing Iose doing it last night was awesome.

                                        But as @Canes4life says we can expdxt Blackadder, Grace and Lio-Willie to make it.

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                                          If Iose can continue his form, especially in terms back end of.the.season, whereas he started on fire last year and tailed off, who knows.

                                          Iose looks a handy 6/8 player, but I guess if fit and in form, Blackadder does give better versatility for a squad, but being fit and in form...

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