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All Blacks 2025

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  • boobooB booboo

    I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

    But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

    Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

    Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

    Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

    i'm coming around to the idea of starting Lakai with Ardie on the bench to cover 7 & 8 by mid-season.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

      Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

      i'm coming around to the idea of starting Lakai with Ardie on the bench to cover 7 & 8 by mid-season.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

      Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

      i'm coming around to the idea of starting Lakai with Ardie on the bench to cover 7 & 8 by mid-season.

      Ardie is only a gazillion and one times better than Lakai, why would you bench him?

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      • M Machpants

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

        That's what vanilla means, yes

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        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

        That's what vanilla means, yes

        Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

          That's what vanilla means, yes

          Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

          That's what vanilla means, yes

          Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

          He can’t be vanilla based on his name alone.

          DuPlessis for fuck sake. As a first name!

          Ben Smith he ain’t.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

            That's what vanilla means, yes

            Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

            That's what vanilla means, yes

            Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

            This is exactly the question I asked and got shot down cos my comprehension is no good.

            I now have no idea what flavour he is

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            • MN5M MN5

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

              That's what vanilla means, yes

              Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

              This is exactly the question I asked and got shot down cos my comprehension is no good.

              I now have no idea what flavour he is

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              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

              That's what vanilla means, yes

              Right, so it would be bizarre to call a player vanilla when one of the notable things about him is that he'd bring something different to the ABs.

              This is exactly the question I asked and got shot down cos my comprehension is no good.

              Tour.

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                #1293

                Something like this for the first Test?

                • Assuming they are all fit to play *

                Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaa'i, S. Barrett (c), Finau, A. Savea, Sititi, Roigard, D Mac, C. Clarke, J.Barrett, ALB, Jordan, Love

                Aumua, De Groot, Tosi, Holland, Lakai, Ratima, Perofeta, Tupaea.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Something like this for the first Test?

                  • Assuming they are all fit to play *

                  Williams, Taylor, Lomax, Vaa'i, S. Barrett (c), Finau, A. Savea, Sititi, Roigard, D Mac, C. Clarke, J.Barrett, ALB, Jordan, Love

                  Aumua, De Groot, Tosi, Holland, Lakai, Ratima, Perofeta, Tupaea.

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                  @sparky assume Pisi is Tosi?

                  If it weren't for TJ Perenara's injury last year, Robertson wouldn't have debuted any players until the Fiji Test. Suspect he'll go for the 'tried and true' in at least the first game against France, especially after their less than impressive performance against Italy at the end of last year.

                  So I think that's largely on the money, but with Jordan at fullback and either Reece or Tele'a on the wing, and either Tuupulotu or Lord on the bench in place of Holland. Could potentially see Taukei'aho over one of the other two hookers also.

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                    Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

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                    • C cgrant

                      Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

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                      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

                      He's shown nothing this year. Absolutely zero form at all. Unless he can fix that, I can't see him making the squad. Robertson is loyal, not blind.

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                        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

                        He's shown nothing this year. Absolutely zero form at all. Unless he can fix that, I can't see him making the squad. Robertson is loyal, not blind.

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

                        He's shown nothing this year. Absolutely zero form at all. Unless he can fix that, I can't see him making the squad. Robertson is loyal, not blind.

                        Making the 23 or making the wider squad? I don't think there's a scenario where a guy who started 10 matches last year doesn't make Robertson's first squad of 2025.

                        I hadn't actually realised you'd left him out of the team... Have a feeling Robertson will plump for him at 13... Might be a different scenario if there were another option absolutely smashing the door down at centre but Lienert-Brown has been good rather than great and Billy Proctor has been injured.

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                        • sparkyS sparky

                          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

                          He's shown nothing this year. Absolutely zero form at all. Unless he can fix that, I can't see him making the squad. Robertson is loyal, not blind.

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                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Rieko Ioane won't be dropped, IMO. He'll start, not ALB.

                          He's shown nothing this year. Absolutely zero form at all. Unless he can fix that, I can't see him making the squad. Robertson is loyal, not blind.

                          It's not like he was busting down doors last year either. He'll be there. Not that he'll be needed if Higgins recovers, won't matter who the outside backs are then.

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                            DMac extending through to 2029 - hopefully that translates into an extended run at 10

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                              https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1906412726294909276

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                                This guy is the best no 10 in NZ
                                This is great news

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                                  Be intriguing to know if this includes a sabbatical in 2026 or 2028.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    Awesome news. I am not the hugest fan, at test match level he can still revert to headless. But his upsides are such that he should be continued with and BB just emergency back up.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1906412726294909276

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                                      @sparky brilliant news.

                                      He should be our 10 going to the RWC 27. Hopefully he continues to grow and develop.

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                                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                        This guy is the best no 10 in NZ
                                        This is great news

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                                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        This guy is the best no 10 in NZ
                                        This is great news

                                        Someone tell Razor

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                                          Now the question is will Richie Mounga ditch coming back altogether or jump ship and play for another country?

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