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    #1550

    The Irish are calling Jodie Barrett "Rugby's cheat code." (From 04:27 below)

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      @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

      Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

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      • BonesB Bones

        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

        Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

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        #1552

        @Bones And offloads. Again. Nothing new, but the double offload is clever.

        I don't think he's doing anything new but the Leinster coaching staff are using him really effectively.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          The Irish are calling Jodie Barrett "Rugby's cheat code." (From 04:27 below)

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          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          The Irish are calling Jodie Barrett "Rugby's cheat code." (From 04:27 below)

          The Irish, like many in the NH, always exaggerate and get over excited. The real test will be in the final against Toulouse. Being part of what is effectively an international team against a club team and steam rolling them isn’t much to get excited about

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            The Irish are calling Jodie Barrett "Rugby's cheat code." (From 04:27 below)

            The Irish, like many in the NH, always exaggerate and get over excited. The real test will be in the final against Toulouse. Being part of what is effectively an international team against a club team and steam rolling them isn’t much to get excited about

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            @KiwiInLondon

            I partially agree.

            Jordie is looking so good because he is part of a dominant and extremely well-coached Leinster team. Easily the best in the URC and, as you say, Toulouse are probably their only really challenger in the European Cup.

            But these is no denying as part of a high-quality rotated midfield, he's looking extremely sharp.

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              More Irish journalists wetting their undies over Jordie Barrett (from 20:00).

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              • Landers92L Landers92

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

                Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Chay Fihaki, Macca Springer, Dallas McLeod.

                In all seriousness. Below would be my order for the 14 jersey. It’s quite a short list when you think about what quality 14’s are actually out there.

                1. Jordan(If BB is 15).
                2. Tangitau/Reece
                3. Tangitau/Reece
                4. Narawa

                I wouldn’t mind seeing Lam(yes he’s been playing 12 but still a good winger)or ENS(when fit) get a crack.

                Unfortunately I think Razor will see Fihaki ahead of Lam, ENS, Narawa and potentially Tangitau.

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                @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                Tangitau

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                What is the Right Wing depth chart after Mark Telea goes offshore?

                Will Jordan, Sevu Reece, Chay Fihaki, Macca Springer, Dallas McLeod.

                In all seriousness. Below would be my order for the 14 jersey. It’s quite a short list when you think about what quality 14’s are actually out there.

                1. Jordan(If BB is 15).
                2. Tangitau/Reece
                3. Tangitau/Reece
                4. Narawa

                I wouldn’t mind seeing Lam(yes he’s been playing 12 but still a good winger)or ENS(when fit) get a crack.

                Unfortunately I think Razor will see Fihaki ahead of Lam, ENS, Narawa and potentially Tangitau.

                Would be an injustice if they didn't give Tangitau a chance.

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                  For all of the criticism that comes Rieko Ioane's way, he sure as hell covers a lot of ground on defence. Yeah, I see the criticisms with him on attack and yes, probably attacks better on the wing, but he's an elite defender.

                  He does work hard on defence I agree, but his decision making in complex scenarios isn't elite - I think his scramble is right up there, tho

                  As has been pointed out, using him as a constant crash ball option also doesn't suit him.

                  Doesn't Jordie or Havili or ALB, but the ABs have been doing it for years - you'd kinda have hoped Razor might have changed that.

                  He's not Levi Aumua.

                  Neither is Levi Aumua, this year!

                  Good post.

                  RI's D has come on in leaps and bounds and last year he put in some outstanding stuff. But apart from that, he hasn't really kicked on and we really need to explore options at 13. Robertson needs to be a bit bolder.

                  Or develop a gameplan that permits Rieko to use his undoubted strengths. At the moment they may as well play another flanker. Using your centre to do almost nothing on attack but crashball off pop passes on the defensive line is fucking dumb.

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                  For all of the criticism that comes Rieko Ioane's way, he sure as hell covers a lot of ground on defence. Yeah, I see the criticisms with him on attack and yes, probably attacks better on the wing, but he's an elite defender.

                  He does work hard on defence I agree, but his decision making in complex scenarios isn't elite - I think his scramble is right up there, tho

                  As has been pointed out, using him as a constant crash ball option also doesn't suit him.

                  Doesn't Jordie or Havili or ALB, but the ABs have been doing it for years - you'd kinda have hoped Razor might have changed that.

                  He's not Levi Aumua.

                  Neither is Levi Aumua, this year!

                  Good post.

                  RI's D has come on in leaps and bounds and last year he put in some outstanding stuff. But apart from that, he hasn't really kicked on and we really need to explore options at 13. Robertson needs to be a bit bolder.

                  Or develop a gameplan that permits Rieko to use his undoubted strengths. At the moment they may as well play another flanker. Using your centre to do almost nothing on attack but crashball off pop passes on the defensive line is fucking dumb.

                  This may be the masterplan - Robertson is struggling to fit all his 6.5s into one loose trio, but he sees an opportunity at centre.

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                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                    For all of the criticism that comes Rieko Ioane's way, he sure as hell covers a lot of ground on defence. Yeah, I see the criticisms with him on attack and yes, probably attacks better on the wing, but he's an elite defender.

                    He does work hard on defence I agree, but his decision making in complex scenarios isn't elite - I think his scramble is right up there, tho

                    As has been pointed out, using him as a constant crash ball option also doesn't suit him.

                    Doesn't Jordie or Havili or ALB, but the ABs have been doing it for years - you'd kinda have hoped Razor might have changed that.

                    He's not Levi Aumua.

                    Neither is Levi Aumua, this year!

                    Good post.

                    RI's D has come on in leaps and bounds and last year he put in some outstanding stuff. But apart from that, he hasn't really kicked on and we really need to explore options at 13. Robertson needs to be a bit bolder.

                    Or develop a gameplan that permits Rieko to use his undoubted strengths. At the moment they may as well play another flanker. Using your centre to do almost nothing on attack but crashball off pop passes on the defensive line is fucking dumb.

                    This may be the masterplan - Robertson is struggling to fit all his 6.5s into one loose trio, but he sees an opportunity at centre.

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                    #1558

                    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                    For all of the criticism that comes Rieko Ioane's way, he sure as hell covers a lot of ground on defence. Yeah, I see the criticisms with him on attack and yes, probably attacks better on the wing, but he's an elite defender.

                    He does work hard on defence I agree, but his decision making in complex scenarios isn't elite - I think his scramble is right up there, tho

                    As has been pointed out, using him as a constant crash ball option also doesn't suit him.

                    Doesn't Jordie or Havili or ALB, but the ABs have been doing it for years - you'd kinda have hoped Razor might have changed that.

                    He's not Levi Aumua.

                    Neither is Levi Aumua, this year!

                    Good post.

                    RI's D has come on in leaps and bounds and last year he put in some outstanding stuff. But apart from that, he hasn't really kicked on and we really need to explore options at 13. Robertson needs to be a bit bolder.

                    Or develop a gameplan that permits Rieko to use his undoubted strengths. At the moment they may as well play another flanker. Using your centre to do almost nothing on attack but crashball off pop passes on the defensive line is fucking dumb.

                    This may be the masterplan - Robertson is struggling to fit all his 6.5s into one loose trio, but he sees an opportunity at centre.

                    6 Papalii, 7 Blackadder, 8 Jacobsen. Easy.

                    Impact in a game is overrated

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      More Irish journalists wetting their undies over Jordie Barrett (from 20:00).

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                      @sparky And Ozzie jounalists

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/how-nienabers-galactico-recruits-are-driving-leinster-towards-a-fifth-star/

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

                        Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

                        Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

                        Watching Sparky's highlight reel makes me think Jordie is our future at #7!

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                        • voodooV voodoo

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

                          Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

                          Watching Sparky's highlight reel makes me think Jordie is our future at #7!

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                          @voodoo said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @voodoo Multiple times for Leinster against Glasgow at the weekend.

                          Is...is space created by making tackles? He's been doing it his whole career then.

                          Watching Sparky's highlight reel makes me think Jordie is our future at #7!

                          Nah, too big to make the ABs as a loose forward.

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                            Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.

                            PLAYER
                            GAMES
                            TRIES
                            AVG DEF. BEATEN

                            Caleb Tangitau
                            7 Games
                            6 Tries
                            3.4 Def beaten

                            Sevu Reece
                            66 Games
                            53 Tries
                            3.1 Def beaten

                            Kini Naholo
                            32 Games
                            19 Tries
                            2.8 Def beaten

                            Leroy Carter
                            7 Games
                            4 Tries
                            3.4 Def beaten

                            Mark Tele'a
                            64 Games
                            34 Tries
                            4.7 Def beaten

                            Emoni Narawa
                            47 Games
                            24 Tries
                            2.6 Def Beaten

                            Caleb Clarke
                            63 Games
                            30 Tries
                            2.9 Def beaten

                            Chay Fihaki
                            38 Games
                            9 Tries
                            1.6 Def beaten

                            Timoci Tavatavanawai
                            43 Games
                            14 Tries
                            5.6 Def beaten

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                            • Landers92L Landers92

                              Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.

                              PLAYER
                              GAMES
                              TRIES
                              AVG DEF. BEATEN

                              Caleb Tangitau
                              7 Games
                              6 Tries
                              3.4 Def beaten

                              Sevu Reece
                              66 Games
                              53 Tries
                              3.1 Def beaten

                              Kini Naholo
                              32 Games
                              19 Tries
                              2.8 Def beaten

                              Leroy Carter
                              7 Games
                              4 Tries
                              3.4 Def beaten

                              Mark Tele'a
                              64 Games
                              34 Tries
                              4.7 Def beaten

                              Emoni Narawa
                              47 Games
                              24 Tries
                              2.6 Def Beaten

                              Caleb Clarke
                              63 Games
                              30 Tries
                              2.9 Def beaten

                              Chay Fihaki
                              38 Games
                              9 Tries
                              1.6 Def beaten

                              Timoci Tavatavanawai
                              43 Games
                              14 Tries
                              5.6 Def beaten

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                              @Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh 🤷‍♂️

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                              • GrooterG Grooter

                                @Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh 🤷‍♂️

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                                @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh 🤷‍♂️

                                I don't remember any Tarzans playing on the wing for the ABs but Jane was a gun at test level. Consistently better than Reece at any rate.

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                                • Landers92L Landers92

                                  Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.

                                  PLAYER
                                  GAMES
                                  TRIES
                                  AVG DEF. BEATEN

                                  Caleb Tangitau
                                  7 Games
                                  6 Tries
                                  3.4 Def beaten

                                  Sevu Reece
                                  66 Games
                                  53 Tries
                                  3.1 Def beaten

                                  Kini Naholo
                                  32 Games
                                  19 Tries
                                  2.8 Def beaten

                                  Leroy Carter
                                  7 Games
                                  4 Tries
                                  3.4 Def beaten

                                  Mark Tele'a
                                  64 Games
                                  34 Tries
                                  4.7 Def beaten

                                  Emoni Narawa
                                  47 Games
                                  24 Tries
                                  2.6 Def Beaten

                                  Caleb Clarke
                                  63 Games
                                  30 Tries
                                  2.9 Def beaten

                                  Chay Fihaki
                                  38 Games
                                  9 Tries
                                  1.6 Def beaten

                                  Timoci Tavatavanawai
                                  43 Games
                                  14 Tries
                                  5.6 Def beaten

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                                  @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

                                    You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

                                      You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

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                                      @MN5 I thought it was an excel spreadsheet

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

                                        You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

                                        You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

                                        I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.

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                                        • Landers92L Landers92

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

                                          You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

                                          I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.

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                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born

                                          You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.

                                          I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.

                                          Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?

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