All Blacks 2025
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Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
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@Landers92 you'd hope with what Tangitau has shown, assuming he doesnt have a long term injury, he should leap a couple from last year.
Along with his power, he has that attribute you cannot coach; speed.
I can kinda see what they like about Fihaki, but gee, it is a pretty long shot hoping he is the rough diamond they see vs a lump of coal.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I can kinda see what they like about Fihaki, but gee, it is a pretty long shot hoping he is the rough diamond they see vs a lump of coal.
Seems like Lolagi Visinia II
Big boot, big frame, occasional good stuff but way too many errors. He shouldn't be a starter in a SR side
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I can kinda see what they like about Fihaki, but gee, it is a pretty long shot hoping he is the rough diamond they see vs a lump of coal.
Seems like Lolagi Visinia II
Big boot, big frame, occasional good stuff but way too many errors. He shouldn't be a starter in a SR side
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I can kinda see what they like about Fihaki, but gee, it is a pretty long shot hoping he is the rough diamond they see vs a lump of coal.
Seems like Lolagi Visinia II
Big boot, big frame, occasional good stuff but way too many errors. He shouldn't be a starter in a SR side
And Fihaki's defence is still a concern for me.
Hoskins Sotutu's massive hail Mary wouldn't have been talked about if Fihaki didn't burst out of the line and leave a massive gap for AJ Lam to stroll through, and that's to go with the other defensive errors he's made.
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@Bovidae I don't like either of those teams.
I assume they have left out Wallace Sititi because he has been injured. DMac and Samipeni Finau are two other obvious names that they've both overlooked.
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
Fihaki will be in all black squad ,done deal, don't agree at all but just the way it is.
Okay Scott Robertson.
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
Fihaki will be in all black squad ,done deal, don't agree at all but just the way it is.
Okay Scott Robertson.
@Canes4life ,it's gonna happen and we all actually no it .,and I'm in no way backing it,
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@george33 I guess the anticipation of it all has changed? Think it was Izzy dagg or Cruden? once found out on the radio same time as everyone else then received the call from Shand & Henry, now in 2025 George you have the the bolters two months in advance!
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@george33 I guess the anticipation of it all has changed? Think it was Izzy dagg or Cruden? once found out on the radio same time as everyone else then received the call from Shand & Henry, now in 2025 George you have the the bolters two months in advance!
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I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.
Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.
I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.
Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.
I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors....
I have a nagging feeling we may reach the bottom this year, heaven forbid may even lose at Eden Park and handover the Bledisloe also.
Just feel like we need some new blood/ bolters to get in this year to be up there again for WC27
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I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.
Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.
I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors....
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.
Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.
I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors....
Wait, aren't the entire country already supporting the Warriors and no one is supporting rugby, or have the media been lying to me the last two years?
To your original point are there people who want Razor to fail? Being disappointed in his first year, especially considering the hype train around him and being disappointed with his selections don't necessarily transition to wanting him to fail. I think we all want him to succeed, and quite frankly shut the fuck up about the overrated 10 playing overseas.
As to those teams, a lot of yuck in those. Weird that uber Cantab Hinton is in the pro Sotutu camp though. Also Cully selecting Barrett at 6, he hasn't even been outstanding at lock this year (yes I know he had one really good game, but lets not pretend he's had a good season so far - hopefully he's saving himself for the tests) and a certain match in 2019 with a much younger version shows the folly of playing him there.
BB must have incriminating photos of all the journos in NZ, they're all his marketing team.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.
Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.
I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors....
Wait, aren't the entire country already supporting the Warriors and no one is supporting rugby, or have the media been lying to me the last two years?
To your original point are there people who want Razor to fail? Being disappointed in his first year, especially considering the hype train around him and being disappointed with his selections don't necessarily transition to wanting him to fail. I think we all want him to succeed, and quite frankly shut the fuck up about the overrated 10 playing overseas.
As to those teams, a lot of yuck in those. Weird that uber Cantab Hinton is in the pro Sotutu camp though. Also Cully selecting Barrett at 6, he hasn't even been outstanding at lock this year (yes I know he had one really good game, but lets not pretend he's had a good season so far - hopefully he's saving himself for the tests) and a certain match in 2019 with a much younger version shows the folly of playing him there.
BB must have incriminating photos of all the journos in NZ, they're all his marketing team.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.
Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.
I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors....
Wait, aren't the entire country already supporting the Warriors and no one is supporting rugby, or have the media been lying to me the last two years?
To your original point are there people who want Razor to fail? Being disappointed in his first year, especially considering the hype train around him and being disappointed with his selections don't necessarily transition to wanting him to fail. I think we all want him to succeed, and quite frankly shut the fuck up about the overrated 10 playing overseas.
As to those teams, a lot of yuck in those. Weird that uber Cantab Hinton is in the pro Sotutu camp though. Also Cully selecting Barrett at 6, he hasn't even been outstanding at lock this year (yes I know he had one really good game, but lets not pretend he's had a good season so far - hopefully he's saving himself for the tests) and a certain match in 2019 with a much younger version shows the folly of playing him there.
BB must have incriminating photos of all the journos in NZ, they're all his marketing team.
If only !!!
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Well that's good news to wake up to, seeing Fihaki's fate sealed by the harbinger of this is definitely going to happen. Meaning it's extremely unlikely to happen.
Those teams are also hilarious, especially the one that thinks Razor is going to up and change his captain.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
Yeah that's the joke. Ah forget it, I'll get my coat.....
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
Yeah that's the joke. Ah forget it, I'll get my coat.....
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
Yeah that's the joke. Ah forget it, I'll get my coat.....
I think you meant to say mn5's favourite players.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
Yeah that's the joke. Ah forget it, I'll get my coat.....
I think you meant to say mn5's favourite players.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
Yeah that's the joke. Ah forget it, I'll get my coat.....
I think you meant to say mn5's favourite players.
Well yeah they both picked Ardie Savea
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:
Here's something to criticise/discuss.
Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.
Marc Hinton is actually @Bones
I might need Tim to translate this one.
He picked all your favourite players
Havili and Blackadder? Righto...
Yeah that's the joke. Ah forget it, I'll get my coat.....
I think you meant to say mn5's favourite players.
Well yeah they both picked Ardie Savea
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
Well yeah they both picked Ardie Savea
at 7 I believe. That would have raised an eyebrow last year I imagine. Looks like we still don't know who our loosies should be (esp 6).
Did Hinton not pick Jordie, will he not be available?
And Havili over Lam huh. Another thing, Vaa'i seems ranked higher than Scott? And Hinton puts him back at 6?Fullback/wing-can't believe we have a paucity there, if the Razor gang choose Fihaki as wing/15 over the other candidates, that is ballsy. Or something.
