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    I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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    • BonesB Bones

      I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

      OMG!

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        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

        Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

        @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

        I guess putting Rieko outside Jordan would mean no one can complain how he goes ball in hand.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

        Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

        @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

        I guess putting Rieko outside Jordan would mean no one can complain how he goes ball in hand.

        Jordan put Springer into space with a lovely long pass today, then followed up in support for the return pass and run in for a (2nd) try.

        Also won an attacking contestable on the Highlanders 22 with a Ben Smith-esque catch.

        The only argument for not having Jordan at 15, is if you are putting Jordie there to accommodate another 12 such as Tavatavanawai.

        Barring that scenario, Sir William of Jordan is the Allblack fullback and its not even close.

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        • BonesB Bones

          I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

          I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

          I'd go Cullen at fullback with Jonah and JK on the wings personally.

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          • BonesB Bones

            I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

            "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

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              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

              @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

              Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

              @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

              I guess putting Rieko outside Jordan would mean no one can complain how he goes ball in hand.

              Jordan put Springer into space with a lovely long pass today, then followed up in support for the return pass and run in for a (2nd) try.

              Also won an attacking contestable on the Highlanders 22 with a Ben Smith-esque catch.

              The only argument for not having Jordan at 15, is if you are putting Jordie there to accommodate another 12 such as Tavatavanawai.

              Barring that scenario, Sir William of Jordan is the Allblack fullback and its not even close.

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              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

              Barring that scenario, Sir William of Jordan is the Allblack fullback and its not even close.

              He's definitely the form fullback in New Zealand.

              Good to see Proctor fit and firing again.

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              • J Jet

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

                "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

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                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

                "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

                Nah, he has come to terms with the fact that Jordan's father that bullied him at school and stole his lunch money, has nothing to do with the player we saw today.

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  Anyone who doesn't have DMac at 10 and Jordan at 15 either

                  a) doesn't know the first thing about rugby
                  b) isn't watching Super Rugby
                  c) a + b

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                  @MiketheSnow

                  DMac's the best 10 and Will Jordan will be in the starting lineup if fit.

                  I'd argue at international level Jordan's best used at 14. I might be tempted to put Jordie Barrett at 15.

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                  • O Old Samurai Jack

                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

                    "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

                    Nah, he has come to terms with the fact that Jordan's father that bullied him at school and stole his lunch money, has nothing to do with the player we saw today.

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                    @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

                    "Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

                    Nah, he has come to terms with the fact that Jordan's father that bullied him at school and stole his lunch money, has nothing to do with the player we saw today.

                    Fuck off, I'm not as old as youse fluffybunnies

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                      This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

                      1. T. Williams
                      2. C. Taylor
                      3. T. Lomax
                      4. S. Barrett (c)
                      5. T. Vai'i
                      6. S. Finau
                      7. A. Savea
                      8. W. Sititi
                      9. C. Ratima
                      10. DMac
                      11. C. Clarke
                      12. J. Barrett
                      13. B. Proctor
                      14. E. Narawa
                      15. W.Jordan
                      16. S. Taukei'aho
                      17. E. De Groot
                      18. F. Newell
                      19. F. Holland
                      20. P. Lakai
                      21. C. Roigard
                      22. R. Love
                      23. Q. Tupaea
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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

                        1. T. Williams
                        2. C. Taylor
                        3. T. Lomax
                        4. S. Barrett (c)
                        5. T. Vai'i
                        6. S. Finau
                        7. A. Savea
                        8. W. Sititi
                        9. C. Ratima
                        10. DMac
                        11. C. Clarke
                        12. J. Barrett
                        13. B. Proctor
                        14. E. Narawa
                        15. W.Jordan
                        16. S. Taukei'aho
                        17. E. De Groot
                        18. F. Newell
                        19. F. Holland
                        20. P. Lakai
                        21. C. Roigard
                        22. R. Love
                        23. Q. Tupaea
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                        @sparky like it, not sold on Holland yet though and tempted to switch Jordie and Tupaea.

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                          You forgot that Razor will have already pencilled in DH, Blackadder and Fihaki

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

                            1. T. Williams
                            2. C. Taylor
                            3. T. Lomax
                            4. S. Barrett (c)
                            5. T. Vai'i
                            6. S. Finau
                            7. A. Savea
                            8. W. Sititi
                            9. C. Ratima
                            10. DMac
                            11. C. Clarke
                            12. J. Barrett
                            13. B. Proctor
                            14. E. Narawa
                            15. W.Jordan
                            16. S. Taukei'aho
                            17. E. De Groot
                            18. F. Newell
                            19. F. Holland
                            20. P. Lakai
                            21. C. Roigard
                            22. R. Love
                            23. Q. Tupaea
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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

                            1. T. Williams
                            2. C. Taylor
                            3. T. Lomax
                            4. S. Barrett (c)
                            5. T. Vai'i
                            6. S. Finau
                            7. A. Savea
                            8. W. Sititi
                            9. C. Ratima
                            10. DMac
                            11. C. Clarke
                            12. J. Barrett
                            13. B. Proctor
                            14. E. Narawa
                            15. W.Jordan
                            16. S. Taukei'aho
                            17. E. De Groot
                            18. F. Newell
                            19. F. Holland
                            20. P. Lakai
                            21. C. Roigard
                            22. R. Love
                            23. Q. Tupaea

                            Not sure they'll choose Narawa at 14 but I like your team. You have 3 or 4 15s by the way (is Love also backup 10?) if you'd like more of a midfield/ wing backup may I suggest A J Lam at 23?

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              You forgot that Razor will have already pencilled in DH, Blackadder and Fihaki

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                              @canefan It's what I'd pick, not what I think Razor will pick.

                              I won't be too upset to see David Havili in the ABs squad. He's playing better than last year.

                              I don't see Ethan Blackadder and Chay Fihaki as anything other than solid to average Super Rugby players. But I don't pick the side.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @sparky like it, not sold on Holland yet though and tempted to switch Jordie and Tupaea.

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                                @Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

                                Probably I'd like eventually to see
                                12 Quinn Tupaea
                                14 Will Jordan
                                15 Jordie Barrett

                                But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

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                                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

                                  1. T. Williams
                                  2. C. Taylor
                                  3. T. Lomax
                                  4. S. Barrett (c)
                                  5. T. Vai'i
                                  6. S. Finau
                                  7. A. Savea
                                  8. W. Sititi
                                  9. C. Ratima
                                  10. DMac
                                  11. C. Clarke
                                  12. J. Barrett
                                  13. B. Proctor
                                  14. E. Narawa
                                  15. W.Jordan
                                  16. S. Taukei'aho
                                  17. E. De Groot
                                  18. F. Newell
                                  19. F. Holland
                                  20. P. Lakai
                                  21. C. Roigard
                                  22. R. Love
                                  23. Q. Tupaea

                                  Not sure they'll choose Narawa at 14 but I like your team. You have 3 or 4 15s by the way (is Love also backup 10?) if you'd like more of a midfield/ wing backup may I suggest A J Lam at 23?

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                                  @nostrildamus Six Nations sides and South Africa kick more than they run. Having lots of players comfortable under the high ball against them is a positive. In the back three, it's essential.

                                  Yes, Ruben Love is my back up 10. I saw enough today from him to think he's worth developing in that role. BB's in decline and I think Love's ceiling is higher than Perofeta's.

                                  AJ Lam's not far away and is probably ahead of Reiko Ioane for me at the moment.

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                                    @Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

                                    Probably I'd like eventually to see
                                    12 Quinn Tupaea
                                    14 Will Jordan
                                    15 Jordie Barrett

                                    But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

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                                    @sparky I'd be tempted to see how Beehre goes too.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @sparky I'd be tempted to see how Beehre goes too.

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                                      @Bones Yep, arguably the Blues most consistent player this year. Similar player and size to Scott Barrett but nine years younger.

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                                        @Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

                                        Probably I'd like eventually to see
                                        12 Quinn Tupaea
                                        14 Will Jordan
                                        15 Jordie Barrett

                                        But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

                                        Probably I'd like eventually to see
                                        12 Quinn Tupaea
                                        14 Will Jordan
                                        15 Jordie Barrett

                                        But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

                                        We sure Holland isn’t just the lock version of Tom Christie with a better PR team?

                                        Holland vs Behree

                                        Minutes
                                        Holland: 647
                                        Behree: 578

                                        Carries
                                        Holland: 51
                                        Behree: 74

                                        Metres
                                        Holland:84
                                        Behree: 187

                                        Post contact metres
                                        Holland: 95
                                        Behree: 153

                                        Defenders beaten
                                        Holland: 2
                                        Behree:11

                                        Tackles:
                                        Holland: 143 (88%)
                                        Behree: 110 (90%)

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

                                          Probably I'd like eventually to see
                                          12 Quinn Tupaea
                                          14 Will Jordan
                                          15 Jordie Barrett

                                          But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

                                          We sure Holland isn’t just the lock version of Tom Christie with a better PR team?

                                          Holland vs Behree

                                          Minutes
                                          Holland: 647
                                          Behree: 578

                                          Carries
                                          Holland: 51
                                          Behree: 74

                                          Metres
                                          Holland:84
                                          Behree: 187

                                          Post contact metres
                                          Holland: 95
                                          Behree: 153

                                          Defenders beaten
                                          Holland: 2
                                          Behree:11

                                          Tackles:
                                          Holland: 143 (88%)
                                          Behree: 110 (90%)

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                                          @KiwiInLondon Fabian Holland was bloody good for the All Blacks XV against Munster last year. He won the Man of the Match award. He's a big old unit and an easy lineout target, although his Super form has been mixed this year.

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