All Blacks 2025

antipodean

@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

Barring that scenario, Sir William of Jordan is the Allblack fullback and its not even close.

He's definitely the form fullback in New Zealand.

Good to see Proctor fit and firing again.

Old Samurai Jack

@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

Nah, he has come to terms with the fact that Jordan's father that bullied him at school and stole his lunch money, has nothing to do with the player we saw today.

sparky

@MiketheSnow

DMac's the best 10 and Will Jordan will be in the starting lineup if fit.

I'd argue at international level Jordan's best used at 14. I might be tempted to put Jordie Barrett at 15.

Bones

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2025:

@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

Nah, he has come to terms with the fact that Jordan's father that bullied him at school and stole his lunch money, has nothing to do with the player we saw today.

Fuck off, I'm not as old as youse fluffybunnies

sparky

This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

T. Williams
C. Taylor
T. Lomax
S. Barrett (c)
T. Vai'i
S. Finau
A. Savea
W. Sititi
C. Ratima
DMac
C. Clarke
J. Barrett
B. Proctor
E. Narawa
W.Jordan
S. Taukei'aho
E. De Groot
F. Newell
F. Holland
P. Lakai
C. Roigard
R. Love
Q. Tupaea

Bones

@sparky like it, not sold on Holland yet though and tempted to switch Jordie and Tupaea.

canefan

You forgot that Razor will have already pencilled in DH, Blackadder and Fihaki

nostrildamus

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

T. Williams

C. Taylor

T. Lomax

S. Barrett (c)

T. Vai'i

S. Finau

A. Savea

W. Sititi

C. Ratima

DMac

C. Clarke

J. Barrett

B. Proctor

E. Narawa

W.Jordan

S. Taukei'aho

E. De Groot

F. Newell

F. Holland

P. Lakai

C. Roigard

R. Love

Q. Tupaea

Not sure they'll choose Narawa at 14 but I like your team. You have 3 or 4 15s by the way (is Love also backup 10?) if you'd like more of a midfield/ wing backup may I suggest A J Lam at 23?

sparky

@canefan It's what I'd pick, not what I think Razor will pick.

I won't be too upset to see David Havili in the ABs squad. He's playing better than last year.

I don't see Ethan Blackadder and Chay Fihaki as anything other than solid to average Super Rugby players. But I don't pick the side.

sparky

@Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

Probably I'd like eventually to see
12 Quinn Tupaea
14 Will Jordan
15 Jordie Barrett

But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

sparky

@nostrildamus Six Nations sides and South Africa kick more than they run. Having lots of players comfortable under the high ball against them is a positive. In the back three, it's essential.

Yes, Ruben Love is my back up 10. I saw enough today from him to think he's worth developing in that role. BB's in decline and I think Love's ceiling is higher than Perofeta's.

AJ Lam's not far away and is probably ahead of Reiko Ioane for me at the moment.

Bones

@sparky I'd be tempted to see how Beehre goes too.

sparky

@Bones Yep, arguably the Blues most consistent player this year. Similar player and size to Scott Barrett but nine years younger.

KiwiInLondon

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

@Bones If Patty T hits form or Sam Darry gets fit, I'd bump them above Holland, but I'm intrigued to see how he'd go at Test level.

Probably I'd like eventually to see
12 Quinn Tupaea
14 Will Jordan
15 Jordie Barrett

But Jordie's playing well at provincial level at 12 and Will Jordan at 15 so I'd leave them there for now.

We sure Holland isn’t just the lock version of Tom Christie with a better PR team?

Holland vs Behree

Minutes
Holland: 647
Behree: 578

Carries
Holland: 51
Behree: 74

Metres
Holland:84
Behree: 187

Post contact metres
Holland: 95
Behree: 153

Defenders beaten
Holland: 2
Behree:11

Tackles:
Holland: 143 (88%)
Behree: 110 (90%)

sparky

@KiwiInLondon Fabian Holland was bloody good for the All Blacks XV against Munster last year. He won the Man of the Match award. He's a big old unit and an easy lineout target, although his Super form has been mixed this year.

KiwiInLondon

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

@KiwiInLondon Fabian Holland was bloody good for the All Blacks XV against Munster last year. He won the Man of the Match award. He's a big old unit and an easy lineout target, although his Super form has been mixed this year.

I watched that game. I have a funny ol feeling that MoM award wasn’t entirely based on who played the best…

canefan

@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

@canefan It's what I'd pick, not what I think Razor will pick.

I won't be too upset to see David Havili in the ABs squad. He's playing better than last year.

I don't see Ethan Blackadder and Chay Fihaki as anything other than solid to average Super Rugby players. But I don't pick the side.

DH may be in form, but apart from one game in SA, has he shown he belongs at test level? Not for me

Victor Meldrew

Is it just me, or has Cam Roigard off his form a bit or is he still nursing some sort of Blackadder we don't know about?

He just hasn't looked that sharp to me so far

antipodean

@Victor-Meldrew I'll take a "Cam Roigard off his form a bit" over a Finlay Christie every day of the week.

BerniesCorner

Geez I hope Razor and Co throw caution to the wind this year and pick form players.
For the past god knows how many years we have been picking underperforming incumbents. Done my head in.
A fleet seven, a 12-13 combo that distributes, young back stars.
For starters unleash the young Canes.
Form is king, bring back the excitement

The Silver Fern

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