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All Blacks 2025

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  • BonesB Bones

    @Victor-Meldrew style

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew style

    Interesting, I see them as very different types of players. Not sure Parker has shown enough dynamism to make the All Blacks just yet. He'd be a weapon if he ran into contact like Finau.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @booboo Caleb Tangitau wasn't playing.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      @booboo Caleb Tangitau wasn't playing.

      Apologies. Thought he was referring to Sititi.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Victor-Meldrew style

        Interesting, I see them as very different types of players. Not sure Parker has shown enough dynamism to make the All Blacks just yet. He'd be a weapon if he ran into contact like Finau.

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        @Mr-Fish yeah he needs to add a bit of an edge to his game.

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          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1916622878818340922?t=Sdh_ovSn0N5QqYQvHug_Wg&s=19

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            Find it curious Brodie McAllister has hardly had a mention in this thread. Has been very strong for a good Chiefs side and was injury cover last year... has probably proved the selectors right for favouring him over Riccitelli.

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              Find it curious Brodie McAllister has hardly had a mention in this thread. Has been very strong for a good Chiefs side and was injury cover last year... has probably proved the selectors right for favouring him over Riccitelli.

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              @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

              Find it curious Brodie McAllister has hardly had a mention in this thread. Has been very strong for a good Chiefs side and was injury cover last year... has probably proved the selectors right for favouring him over Riccitelli.

              Slightly older in the tooth but definitely a strong option.

              Unless there are injuries though, Taylor, Taukei'aho and Aumua will definitely take all the berths available. Would be good to see McAlister and Moananu share duties for the ABs XV though.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                This is what I've currently got pencilled in for the First Test, but it will be interesting to see how players go at the business end of the season.

                1. T. Williams
                2. C. Taylor
                3. T. Lomax
                4. S. Barrett (c)
                5. T. Vai'i
                6. S. Finau
                7. A. Savea
                8. W. Sititi
                9. C. Ratima
                10. DMac
                11. C. Clarke
                12. J. Barrett
                13. B. Proctor
                14. E. Narawa
                15. W.Jordan
                16. S. Taukei'aho
                17. E. De Groot
                18. F. Newell
                19. F. Holland
                20. P. Lakai
                21. C. Roigard
                22. R. Love
                23. Q. Tupaea
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                @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

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                • S Steven Harris

                  @frugby i think you will find Beehre is a more traditional tight lock who will do all the hard yards close in
                  Based on the stats posted its pretty impressive
                  Once Tuipulotu moves on Josh will find himself in the 4 jersey imo
                  I have been told by a few sources that he is excptionally strong in the scrummaging department
                  Hes taken his opportunity in Sam Darry’s absence
                  Holland should be an All Black this year ,but it would surprise me if Beehre becomes an All Black in the next couple of years

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                  @Steven-Harris totally agree, Beehre his time should be close, Holland I'm not actually impressed seems to just able around when Highlander's are under the pump, for big lad, he's soft.

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                    @Steven-Harris totally agree, Beehre his time should be close, Holland I'm not actually impressed seems to just able around when Highlander's are under the pump, for big lad, he's soft.

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                    @george33 funny thing is when the landers have been under the pump that's when Holland has been doing good stuff in my view, Blues vs Landers game twice in the final 15mins he won opposition lineout, the Drua game a few weeks back he disrupted them at the breakdown. The Dutchmans work ons should be showing more with ball in hand 🤷‍♂️

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                      @Steven-Harris totally agree, Beehre his time should be close, Holland I'm not actually impressed seems to just able around when Highlander's are under the pump, for big lad, he's soft.

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                      @george33 thats my only issue with Holland his contact and post contact metres ..Beehre if you were comparing that aspect wins hands down

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1916622878818340922?t=Sdh_ovSn0N5QqYQvHug_Wg&s=19

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                          @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

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                          @george33 That side is who I would pick. Others are entitled to their opinions.

                          Reiko Ioane may be a darling of the NZ Rugby Media establishment, but he has created nothing all year at Centre for the Blues. He's an emperor without clothes.

                          He was a decent Test wing, but has never really developed in the midfield. Billy Proctor would offer a lot more in creativity and I think it's bizarre to shut out forever a talented player forever based on one game which the All Blacks comfortable won 47-5.

                          Picking Reiko Ioane until the retires regardless of form is a classic example of the lazy groupthink that has infected the NZ Rugby establishment in the last decade.

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                            Even the All Black socials know what’s up. Doctor Proctor has to be the AB 13 this year.

                            He did more in his first start on Saturday than Reiko’s done all year.

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                              @george33 That side is who I would pick. Others are entitled to their opinions.

                              Reiko Ioane may be a darling of the NZ Rugby Media establishment, but he has created nothing all year at Centre for the Blues. He's an emperor without clothes.

                              He was a decent Test wing, but has never really developed in the midfield. Billy Proctor would offer a lot more in creativity and I think it's bizarre to shut out forever a talented player forever based on one game which the All Blacks comfortable won 47-5.

                              Picking Reiko Ioane until the retires regardless of form is a classic example of the lazy groupthink that has infected the NZ Rugby establishment in the last decade.

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                              @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                Even the All Black socials know what’s up. Doctor Proctor has to be the AB 13 this year.

                                He did more in his first start on Saturday than Reiko’s done all year.

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                                @Canes4life did Razor, put that up?

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                                  Even the All Black socials know what’s up. Doctor Proctor has to be the AB 13 this year.

                                  He did more in his first start on Saturday than Reiko’s done all year.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Even the All Black socials know what’s up. Doctor Proctor has to be the AB 13 this year.

                                  He did more in his first start on Saturday than Reiko’s done all year.

                                  It’s fair to say you might be slightly biased when discussing Canes players…..

                                  It’s pretty tough seeing Razor dropping Ioane ( or anyone really ) but he is at that age where speedsters in the ABs get jettisoned ( Cullen, Jonah, Rokokoko all gone before 28 which Ioane is now )

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                                    Yeah, talk about NZR shutting out Proctor is.... interesting. Wasn't he the first player to get a 5 year contract?

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                                      @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

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                                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

                                      Maybe that's an issue. Have a poor debut and no matter how talented get a black mark in the coaching staff's book. Coach then makes comfortable selections. Which us fine - until the comfortable choices get injured or form dissappears.

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                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

                                        Maybe that's an issue. Have a poor debut and no matter how talented get a black mark in the coaching staff's book. Coach then makes comfortable selections. Which us fine - until the comfortable choices get injured or form dissappears.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

                                        Maybe that's an issue. Have a poor debut and no matter how talented get a black mark in the coaching staff's book. Coach then makes comfortable selections. Which us fine - until the comfortable choices get injured or form dissappears.

                                        It's simply bollocks. If missed tackles are that big of an issue, then the cantab props and EB are in a world of trouble.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          Yeah, talk about NZR shutting out Proctor is.... interesting. Wasn't he the first player to get a 5 year contract?

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                                          @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

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