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    Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

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      Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

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      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

      Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

      Think there's a better option in Ollie Norris, but the third-choice loosehead isn't exactly going to be picking up much game time so not too bothered if Fusitu'a does get the call up. Would rather him than an older guy like George Bower when you've got two props in Tamaiti Williams and Ethan de Groot who are both more than capable of footing it with the best.

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        Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

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        @chchfanatic Not bad, but I'd prefer Ollie Norris as the third loosehead.

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          Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

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          @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

          Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

          Interesting. I thought he may be a year or two off being considered despite having a massive breakout season. Real workhorse prop around the park and there hasn't been an issue with his scrummaging but yeah, wasn't expecting him to be in the frame this quickly.

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            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2025:

            @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            From what I've seen the Saffas are basically using heavy rotation of their starting line up to keep players fresh. Their players often get rotated at the 35 to 50 mark compared to ours at 60 - 70. The use of our bench was often poor last year. The mindset is completely different.

            This nullifies completly the whole "run them off their feet" gameplan which we still persist with and we haven't got a plan B in the back pocket to counter this. It's tactically brilliant (albiet with calculated risk should 2 backs get injured) that we haven't got an answer for.

            In short the AB's need to find a way to make space on the field that doesn't rely on players being out of position due to fatigue because when you can basically sub on a whole new forward pack no-one is fatigued.

            This isn't the thread for it but I really dislike the rules around the use of the bench in modern footy, allowing teams to substitute an almost entirely new forward packs on for the second 40. It's completely removed one of the most challenging parts of the game - executing your skills in the final 10 minutes when the lungs are burning and the legs feel like jelly to get the win.

            Me too, but you can't change the rules you can only change how you play.
            You can pick like for like and play them at their own game.
            You can try something as simple as targeting players you know won't be subbed. Run our guys at their backs all day, then sub our guys who are running at their backs, and run at them some more.

            What we did, is not sub until about 70 minutes and pick a specialist winger on the bench. Fuck. Off.

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            @reprobate and sub SP on at the 79 minute mark

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              Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

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              @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

              Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

              He got named Blues player of the year. Whilst that might say more about the Blues season than anything else he has really come on the last couple of years.

              He only just turned 24 so plenty of rugby ahead for him.

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                @reprobate and sub SP on at the 79 minute mark

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                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                @reprobate and sub SP on at the 79 minute mark

                So stupid. If there's a chance you don't use a player on the bench depending on the game situation, just communicate it to them in advance with the reasons. Don't leave them hanging and then bring them on in some shit token gesture to pretend they're part of the game.

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                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

                  Interesting. I thought he may be a year or two off being considered despite having a massive breakout season. Real workhorse prop around the park and there hasn't been an issue with his scrummaging but yeah, wasn't expecting him to be in the frame this quickly.

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                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

                  Interesting. I thought he may be a year or two off being considered despite having a massive breakout season. Real workhorse prop around the park and there hasn't been an issue with his scrummaging but yeah, wasn't expecting him to be in the frame this quickly.

                  Solid in the scrum and improving, decent carrier & very high work rate. More active at cleaning out rucks than other NZ props.

                  For what its worth, George predicted this

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                    The fact the Herald have an article on Fusitu'a right now suggests they've had some oil too.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

                      Interesting. I thought he may be a year or two off being considered despite having a massive breakout season. Real workhorse prop around the park and there hasn't been an issue with his scrummaging but yeah, wasn't expecting him to be in the frame this quickly.

                      Solid in the scrum and improving, decent carrier & very high work rate. More active at cleaning out rucks than other NZ props.

                      For what its worth, George predicted this

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                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

                      Interesting. I thought he may be a year or two off being considered despite having a massive breakout season. Real workhorse prop around the park and there hasn't been an issue with his scrummaging but yeah, wasn't expecting him to be in the frame this quickly.

                      Solid in the scrum and improving, decent carrier & very high work rate. More active at cleaning out rucks than other NZ props.

                      For what its worth, George predicted this

                      Yes he did.

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                        He's always had a good workrate. His scrum upside wouldn't appear to be as high as the other options but he has become more solid in this area.

                        I think he's become more accurate overall. As a bench prop I think Ollie Norris is better suited and he has the extra size.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Thoughts on Fusitua in the squad. Heard he might be a Smokey.

                          Interesting. I thought he may be a year or two off being considered despite having a massive breakout season. Real workhorse prop around the park and there hasn't been an issue with his scrummaging but yeah, wasn't expecting him to be in the frame this quickly.

                          Solid in the scrum and improving, decent carrier & very high work rate. More active at cleaning out rucks than other NZ props.

                          For what its worth, George predicted this

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                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                          predicted

                          I'm not sure that's the word?

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                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                            predicted

                            I'm not sure that's the word?

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                            predicted

                            I'm not sure that's the word?

                            He said the AB coaches were interested in him when no one else was saying anything of the sort. Now, several weeks later, we have others hearing the same thing.

                            Why not give him some credit?

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                              predicted

                              I'm not sure that's the word?

                              He said the AB coaches were interested in him when no one else was saying anything of the sort. Now, several weeks later, we have others hearing the same thing.

                              Why not give him some credit?

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                              @Duluth what is the credit for again? Something that hasn't happened?

                              Going off his history, it's highly likely he just thought he was playing well so added the extra details about AB coaches and hey presto "prediction/rumour".

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                                @Duluth what is the credit for again? Something that hasn't happened?

                                Going off his history, it's highly likely he just thought he was playing well so added the extra details about AB coaches and hey presto "prediction/rumour".

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                                @Bones

                                Chchfantic is a dick but he has good links to Robertson etc. If he says Fusitua might be a bolter, that's decent confirmation of what George said. George has also got a lot of things right around Blues/Auckland.. I don't think its fair to call him a liar.

                                His success rate is just in the 40-50% range. I hope he keeps posting what he hears

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                                  @Bones

                                  Chchfantic is a dick but he has good links to Robertson etc. If he says Fusitua might be a bolter, that's decent confirmation of what George said. George has also got a lot of things right around Blues/Auckland.. I don't think its fair to call him a liar.

                                  His success rate is just in the 40-50% range. I hope he keeps posting what he hears

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                                  @Duluth the 50% that were wrong were "done deal", "you will see", etc. So I don't know what that should be called.

                                  Tangitau is as clear an example you'll get of why eggs like me might scoff and disregard, I don't know why you're so invested, but hey surely you giving him credit is enough?

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                                    @Duluth the 50% that were wrong were "done deal", "you will see", etc. So I don't know what that should be called.

                                    Tangitau is as clear an example you'll get of why eggs like me might scoff and disregard, I don't know why you're so invested, but hey surely you giving him credit is enough?

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Duluth the 50% that were wrong were "done deal", "you will see", etc. So I don't know what that should be called.

                                    Yeah he was clearly incorrect and he got criticism for it

                                    I think the pile was getting a bit over the top though. The worst shit has been removed

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                                      hearing that josh jacomb not leaving cheifs , re signing til post world cup , done deal

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                                        hearing that josh jacomb not leaving cheifs , re signing til post world cup , done deal

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                                        @george34 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        hearing that josh jacomb not leaving cheifs , re signing til post world cup , done deal

                                        100%? Haha

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                                          hearing that josh jacomb not leaving cheifs , re signing til post world cup , done deal

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