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All Blacks 2025

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/06/17/all-blacks-coach-has-worked-it-out-at-last-the-only-head-on-the-chopping-block-is-his/

    Just informing people this is an opinion piece by Hamish Bidwell - just in case people had it confused with an actual journalist or something of value.

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/06/17/all-blacks-coach-has-worked-it-out-at-last-the-only-head-on-the-chopping-block-is-his/

    Just informing people this is an opinion piece by Hamish Bidwell - just in case people had it confused with an actual journalist or something of value.

    ~750 words to say nothing of value.

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      Sabbaticals are fine, just don't parachute them back in unless they are 100 test greats: aaron smith / mccaw / nonu level - don't select them until they've played locally again and dominated. That in itself will somewhat reduce how attractive it is to a player.
      Savea was okay last year - but only okay - he was outplayed all season by a 21 year old rookie. And let's not forget that said rookie would have been much more likely to get his chance if Savea hadn't been selected.

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        If I am Robertson, Ardie announcing another sabbatical should be considered in his selections for games this year.
        Marginal calls should go against him.

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        • F Frank

          If I am Robertson, Ardie announcing another sabbatical should be considered in his selections for games this year.
          Marginal calls should go against him.

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          @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

          If I am Robertson, Ardie announcing another sabbatical should be considered in his selections for games this year.
          Marginal calls should go against him.

          Well, any excuse to get Papalii, Jacobsen and most importantly Blackadder in the same squad I guess.

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            This won’t have come as a surprise to Razor.

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              We are now less than a week out from the squad being announced, anyone know of any bolter rumours flying around? The big one from last year that no one saw coming was the announcement of Pasilio Tosi, will be interesting to see if something similar happens this year again.

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              • R reprobate

                Sabbaticals are fine, just don't parachute them back in unless they are 100 test greats: aaron smith / mccaw / nonu level - don't select them until they've played locally again and dominated. That in itself will somewhat reduce how attractive it is to a player.
                Savea was okay last year - but only okay - he was outplayed all season by a 21 year old rookie. And let's not forget that said rookie would have been much more likely to get his chance if Savea hadn't been selected.

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                @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                Sabbaticals are fine, just don't parachute them back in unless they are 100 test greats: aaron smith / mccaw / nonu level - don't select them until they've played locally again and dominated. That in itself will somewhat reduce how attractive it is to a player.
                Savea was okay last year - but only okay - he was outplayed all season by a 21 year old rookie. And let's not forget that said rookie would have been much more likely to get his chance if Savea hadn't been selected.

                This is a pervasive view, but I don’t think it holds much value any more given the quality of play around the world, even in places like Japan. The club scene there is far superior to what they get from their national team. And this is even more so with wavering quality at Super and NPC levels.

                At the individual level, yes Ardie had a dip in the black jersey last year after an immense 2023 test season. But looking at his output this Super season he has been a real standout and looked fitter. His level of involvement for an openside has been at a high level which for me will translate to the rest arena - given his experience and understanding of test rugby. Now this won’t work for all players, but for Ardie I have very few concerns.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  We are now less than a week out from the squad being announced, anyone know of any bolter rumours flying around? The big one from last year that no one saw coming was the announcement of Pasilio Tosi, will be interesting to see if something similar happens this year again.

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                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                  We are now less than a week out from the squad being announced, anyone know of any bolter rumours flying around? The big one from last year that no one saw coming was the announcement of Pasilio Tosi, will be interesting to see if something similar happens this year again.

                  A couple on here have reported Fusitua? Does that count if he gets picked as I would say that most people wouldn't have taken him into consideration.

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                    #3566

                    The Highlanders that are at ABs camp this week.

                    JRK
                    EDG
                    TK Howden
                    Fabian Holland
                    Tavatavanawai
                    Jack Taylor

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      The Highlanders that are at ABs camp this week.

                      JRK
                      EDG
                      TK Howden
                      Fabian Holland
                      Tavatavanawai
                      Jack Taylor

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                      Kiwiwomble
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                      @Landers92 where is the camp? just working out if its in dunners and theyre just the best local to run in defence

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                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                        We are now less than a week out from the squad being announced, anyone know of any bolter rumours flying around? The big one from last year that no one saw coming was the announcement of Pasilio Tosi, will be interesting to see if something similar happens this year again.

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                        @Canes4life I've head Jack Taylor is at some ABs training camp up north but doubt it means too much as there's like 5 Hookers at the Chiefs or Crusaders you would assume are ahead in the pecking order but good on Ryan and Razor for identifying him as a possible future player down the road.

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                          I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week

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                              @Landers92 where is the camp? just working out if its in dunners and theyre just the best local to run in defence

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                              @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Landers92 where is the camp? just working out if its in dunners and theyre just the best local to run in defence

                              Tauranga

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                                No Fakatava?

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  No Fakatava?

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  No Fakatava?

                                  That says a lot.

                                  Glad Howden is in their sights, not sure he is there yet but he has the size and tools.

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                                    I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week

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                                    @jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week

                                    If Timoci Tavatavanawai gets picked there's no way I'll have the energy to write his whole name every time so I hope he forgives me if I ever call him T'nT..

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                                    • Landers92L Landers92

                                      The Highlanders that are at ABs camp this week.

                                      JRK
                                      EDG
                                      TK Howden
                                      Fabian Holland
                                      Tavatavanawai
                                      Jack Taylor

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                                      @Landers92 Great oil. I wonder who is there from the Canes and Blues? No Fakatava.

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week

                                        If Timoci Tavatavanawai gets picked there's no way I'll have the energy to write his whole name every time so I hope he forgives me if I ever call him T'nT..

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                                        KiwiMurph
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                                        @nostrildamus just go with his nickname of Big Jim

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @nostrildamus just go with his nickname of Big Jim

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @nostrildamus just go with his nickname of Big Jim

                                          Sigh. Yes that is reasonable I guess. When you have JB as competition though Big Jim doesn't really seem that big..

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