All Blacks 2025
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The Highlanders that are at ABs camp this week.
JRK
EDG
TK Howden
Fabian Holland
Tavatavanawai
Jack Taylor@Landers92 where is the camp? just working out if its in dunners and theyre just the best local to run in defence
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We are now less than a week out from the squad being announced, anyone know of any bolter rumours flying around? The big one from last year that no one saw coming was the announcement of Pasilio Tosi, will be interesting to see if something similar happens this year again.
@Canes4life I've head Jack Taylor is at some ABs training camp up north but doubt it means too much as there's like 5 Hookers at the Chiefs or Crusaders you would assume are ahead in the pecking order but good on Ryan and Razor for identifying him as a possible future player down the road.
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@Landers92 where is the camp? just working out if its in dunners and theyre just the best local to run in defence
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 where is the camp? just working out if its in dunners and theyre just the best local to run in defence
Tauranga
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
No Fakatava?
That says a lot.
Glad Howden is in their sights, not sure he is there yet but he has the size and tools.
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I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week
@jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:
I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week
If Timoci Tavatavanawai gets picked there's no way I'll have the energy to write his whole name every time so I hope he forgives me if I ever call him T'nT..
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The Highlanders that are at ABs camp this week.
JRK
EDG
TK Howden
Fabian Holland
Tavatavanawai
Jack Taylor@Landers92 Great oil. I wonder who is there from the Canes and Blues? No Fakatava.
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@jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:
I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week
If Timoci Tavatavanawai gets picked there's no way I'll have the energy to write his whole name every time so I hope he forgives me if I ever call him T'nT..
@nostrildamus just go with his nickname of Big Jim
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@nostrildamus just go with his nickname of Big Jim
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
@nostrildamus just go with his nickname of Big Jim
Sigh. Yes that is reasonable I guess. When you have JB as competition though Big Jim doesn't really seem that big..
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
No Fakatava?
Guessing that has a bit to do with Roigard being available for camp and dare I say it, Findlay Christie too.
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@jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:
I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week
If Timoci Tavatavanawai gets picked there's no way I'll have the energy to write his whole name every time so I hope he forgives me if I ever call him T'nT..
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@jamsb said in All Blacks 2025:
I saw the highlanders create a post then quickly delete - TK Howden, Jack Taylor, Ethan de Groot, Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkins, and Timoci Tavatavanawai have been called into the All Blacks camp for this coming week
If Timoci Tavatavanawai gets picked there's no way I'll have the energy to write his whole name every time so I hope he forgives me if I ever call him T'nT..
The last guy called TNT that I remember was Toby N Tucker from the Oliver Stone movie U Turn. The locals called him that cos when he goes off people get hurt.
( or as Sean Penns character Bobby said they weren’t very imaginative)
I hope Timoci Tavatavanawai ( which I have copied and pasted for the first and last time ) is similarly explosive
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All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
Forgot Kirifi too -
All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
Forgot Kirifi too@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:
All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.I’ll believe that when I ( don’t ) see it. The. Crusaders are in the final and he hasn’t been injured all season.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones any NZ player plying their trade outside of NZ is by definition not giving any value to NZ.
I'm also on record about his form this year and I've routinely said he should be in the 23 as a super sub so I'm not sure where the "don't like the guy" shit comes from.
And for the record I've never been a fan of sabbaticals. Ex-All Blacks can make money after their representative career is over.
Quite frankly I'm forming the opinion that some long standing All Blacks are hanging around too long thanks in part to this sort of accommodation - impacting new All Blacks' development and our competitiveness.
Yeah I'm talking about NZ rugby, he definitely provides huge value there. You're focusing on the AB's. He's got a fucking massive fan base outside of GOM's shouting at clouds on an internet forum.
What tangible outcomes does that provide whilst he's in Japan?
What if it was Aaron Smith? Anyone would fucking bite your hand off to have been able to keep him in NZ and let him feather his nest briefly overseas.
If my aunt had balls.
Even Sam waited until after he was a centurion.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones any NZ player plying their trade outside of NZ is by definition not giving any value to NZ.
I'm also on record about his form this year and I've routinely said he should be in the 23 as a super sub so I'm not sure where the "don't like the guy" shit comes from.
And for the record I've never been a fan of sabbaticals. Ex-All Blacks can make money after their representative career is over.
Quite frankly I'm forming the opinion that some long standing All Blacks are hanging around too long thanks in part to this sort of accommodation - impacting new All Blacks' development and our competitiveness.
Yeah I'm talking about NZ rugby, he definitely provides huge value there. You're focusing on the AB's. He's got a fucking massive fan base outside of GOM's shouting at clouds on an internet forum.
What tangible outcomes does that provide whilst he's in Japan?
The tangible outcome ofnot having to fork out probably hundreds of thousands more to have a player earn his keep in NZ for his whole career, as well as building an even bigger fan base. Dollars to donuts there's new AB/NZ rugby fans tuning in due to having him enter their "sphere".
What if it was Aaron Smith? Anyone would fucking bite your hand off to have been able to keep him in NZ and let him feather his nest briefly overseas.
If my aunt had balls.
Even Sam waited until after he was a centurion.
Maybe if he hadn't, he would have played out his career in NZ (and Strange would have become the superstar he was always meant to be).
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All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
Forgot Kirifi too@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:
All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
Forgot Kirifi tooThanks for posting, very interesting. Given Blackadder was really the incumbent 6 last year, and his replacement when injured was Sititi who is probably not a long term 6, it would be surprising if he missed out all together. Age wise you'd think there's still a few years left in him, but body wise I wonder if he's being held together by tape so the rigors of test footy may be too much. Have to feel for the bloke, he's obviously talented but injuries have really stopped him reaching his potential.
I like that they view Rieko as a wing/centre. I thought the way they used him on the wing at the end of tests last year was very clever and he looked very dangerous out there in the final 20 minutes.
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@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:
All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.I’ll believe that when I ( don’t ) see it. The. Crusaders are in the final and he hasn’t been injured all season.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:
All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.I’ll believe that when I ( don’t ) see it. The. Crusaders are in the final and he hasn’t been injured all season.
I agree.
For what it is worth though, Blackadder is off contract after this season(2025). I’m not saying it’s the reason, just something to keep in mind
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All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
Forgot Kirifi too@chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:
All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
Forgot Kirifi too@chchfanatic great insight.
Does that mean Kirifi is in?
What about the likes of Lakai and Havili?
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones any NZ player plying their trade outside of NZ is by definition not giving any value to NZ.
I'm also on record about his form this year and I've routinely said he should be in the 23 as a super sub so I'm not sure where the "don't like the guy" shit comes from.
And for the record I've never been a fan of sabbaticals. Ex-All Blacks can make money after their representative career is over.
Quite frankly I'm forming the opinion that some long standing All Blacks are hanging around too long thanks in part to this sort of accommodation - impacting new All Blacks' development and our competitiveness.
Yeah I'm talking about NZ rugby, he definitely provides huge value there. You're focusing on the AB's. He's got a fucking massive fan base outside of GOM's shouting at clouds on an internet forum.
What tangible outcomes does that provide whilst he's in Japan?
The tangible outcome ofnot having to fork out probably hundreds of thousands more to have a player earn his keep in NZ for his whole career, as well as building an even bigger fan base. Dollars to donuts there's new AB/NZ rugby fans tuning in due to having him enter their "sphere".
What if it was Aaron Smith? Anyone would fucking bite your hand off to have been able to keep him in NZ and let him feather his nest briefly overseas.
If my aunt had balls.
Even Sam waited until after he was a centurion.
Maybe if he hadn't, he would have played out his career in NZ (and Strange would have become the superstar he was always meant to be).
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones any NZ player plying their trade outside of NZ is by definition not giving any value to NZ.
I'm also on record about his form this year and I've routinely said he should be in the 23 as a super sub so I'm not sure where the "don't like the guy" shit comes from.
And for the record I've never been a fan of sabbaticals. Ex-All Blacks can make money after their representative career is over.
Quite frankly I'm forming the opinion that some long standing All Blacks are hanging around too long thanks in part to this sort of accommodation - impacting new All Blacks' development and our competitiveness.
Yeah I'm talking about NZ rugby, he definitely provides huge value there. You're focusing on the AB's. He's got a fucking massive fan base outside of GOM's shouting at clouds on an internet forum.
What tangible outcomes does that provide whilst he's in Japan?
The tangible outcome ofnot having to fork out probably hundreds of thousands more to have a player earn his keep in NZ for his whole career, as well as building an even bigger fan base. Dollars to donuts there's new AB/NZ rugby fans tuning in due to having him enter their "sphere".
Got it; the organisation could've been saved from losing millions of dollars per annum by having an All Black or two play elsewhere.
And those new fans, all eight of them, who hadn't heard of the All Blacks or seen highlights before one on sabbatical played in their competition.
We should send them all OS with these sorts of returns.
