All Blacks 2025
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Is this based on Silverfern rumours?
No Blackadder?
Yep, rumours are he's missing out. But nothing set in stone yet.
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@pakman said in All Blacks 2025:
@Canes4life I think you need to lose a back.
Hmmm, you're right, Havili, Tavatavanawai and Tupaea are probably vying for two spots. One of them will likely miss out.
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I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.
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I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.
Very close if @chchfanatic is telling me I am believing it.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.
Very close if @chchfanatic is telling me I am believing it.
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.
Very close if @chchfanatic is telling me I am believing it.
Yeah he's usually bang on when he posts runours.
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I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
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I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
I don't think Sotutu was anywhere near MOTM in the quarter-final to be honest but regardless, one good game doesn't jump you from never in contention to 50/50.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
I don't think Sotutu was anywhere near MOTM in the quarter-final to be honest but regardless, one good game doesn't jump you from never in contention to 50/50.
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Well according to the fern poll he was comfortably MOTM. Not sure how you can say he was no where near it without some kind of bias?
@brodean alternatively, Blues fans are biased towards Hoskins because they think he doesn't get a fair crack. Evidently we just saw the game differently.
He only got one single vote for MOTM in the other two games played since chchfanatic's previous comments so I don't think it matters hugely either way.
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With the potential selection of both Kirifi and Lakai, I hope stronger consideration of a 6:2 bench is taken this season. They were close a couple of times last year but I think with where the game is at and where we have depth, what happens in the last 20 minutes it is far more critical to have fresh forwards.
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
I don't think Sotutu was anywhere near MOTM in the quarter-final to be honest but regardless, one good game doesn't jump you from never in contention to 50/50.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
I don't think Sotutu was anywhere near MOTM in the quarter-final to be honest but regardless, one good game doesn't jump you from never in contention to 50/50.
Never? He's been an AB! This year coming back from injury!
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
I don't think Sotutu was anywhere near MOTM in the quarter-final to be honest but regardless, one good game doesn't jump you from never in contention to 50/50.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:
I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.
Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.
One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.
I don't think Sotutu was anywhere near MOTM in the quarter-final to be honest but regardless, one good game doesn't jump you from never in contention to 50/50.
Sotutu's form was building the second half of the season once he came back from suspension.
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I think if they are seriously considering Hos then they see Ardie as 7 and Wallace as 6/8, wonder who they would have on bench. And maybe Wallace at 6 or sharing with Finau given Parker is injured but who is backup 7? Maybe Jacobson on bench?
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I think the bench is going to be a major consideration this year. Potentially they are ability to fashion Sotutu into a finisher? I wouldn’t have him in my squad but I think he’d offer more as a bench option than Jacobson even if the latter can play multiple positions.
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With the potential selection of both Kirifi and Lakai, I hope stronger consideration of a 6:2 bench is taken this season. They were close a couple of times last year but I think with where the game is at and where we have depth, what happens in the last 20 minutes it is far more critical to have fresh forwards.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
With the potential selection of both Kirifi and Lakai, I hope stronger consideration of a 6:2 bench is taken this season. They were close a couple of times last year but I think with where the game is at and where we have depth, what happens in the last 20 minutes it is far more critical to have fresh forwards.
I'm concerned about a loose forward selection stacked with relatively small bodies - Sititi, Lakai, Kirifi, Savea - that reads like an injury away from being belted against teams that like to muscle up.
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You don’t select them all for the 23, but having a quicker and specialist loosie like Kirifi on the bench along with another specialist 6 (or 8), as well as your lock, then you have forward impact plus necessary size.
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@brodean alternatively, Blues fans are biased towards Hoskins because they think he doesn't get a fair crack. Evidently we just saw the game differently.
He only got one single vote for MOTM in the other two games played since chchfanatic's previous comments so I don't think it matters hugely either way.
If he only got 1 single vote for MOTM in the other two games then that would indicate that your first point about Blues fans being biased towards Hoskins is wrong.
Btw I don't think he's done enough this year to be selected but to say he was no where near MOTM against the Chiefs is just plain wrong. It's one thing to say another player was better but to say he was no where near it is ridiculous.
