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All Blacks 2025

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    An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

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      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

      An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

      May be better than the current pairing if the brains trust attack of having both centres just bash it up on short balls is going to stay.

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        Sotutu would be an excellent option to cover the backs if you ran a 6-2 bench

        He's played first five at senior club level.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Sotutu would be an excellent option to cover the backs if you ran a 6-2 bench

          He's played first five at senior club level.

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

          Sotutu would be an excellent option to cover the backs if you ran a 6-2 bench

          He's played first five at senior club level.

          He was very fucking useful when he had to go to 12 in a super game. It's not ideal of course, but we have a range of players around at the moment who are specialists but could bridge a gap in an emergency. I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with it.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

            Sotutu would be an excellent option to cover the backs if you ran a 6-2 bench

            He's played first five at senior club level.

            He was very fucking useful when he had to go to 12 in a super game. It's not ideal of course, but we have a range of players around at the moment who are specialists but could bridge a gap in an emergency. I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with it.

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            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

            I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with

            Agreed.

            The current approach is risky too as we have players that don't add impact and get carded.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

              I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with

              Agreed.

              The current approach is risky too as we have players that don't add impact and get carded.

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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

              I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with

              Agreed.

              The current approach is risky too as we have players that don't add impact and get carded.

              That's an excellent point, it's risky in the opposite direction to expect a 5:3 split of generalists to be able to take on what amounts to 3/4 of a fresh pack in the final 30 minutes of a test.

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              • gt12G gt12

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with

                Agreed.

                The current approach is risky too as we have players that don't add impact and get carded.

                That's an excellent point, it's risky in the opposite direction to expect a 5:3 split of generalists to be able to take on what amounts to 3/4 of a fresh pack in the final 30 minutes of a test.

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                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                I'd much prefer Razor et al to be brave and choose them with a 6:2 and go chase games, even though we would taking some risks with

                Agreed.

                The current approach is risky too as we have players that don't add impact and get carded.

                That's an excellent point, it's risky in the opposite direction to expect a 5:3 split of generalists to be able to take on what amounts to 3/4 of a fresh pack in the final 30 10 minutes of a test.

                FTFY

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                  An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

                  May be better than the current pairing if the brains trust attack of having both centres just bash it up on short balls is going to stay.

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                  An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

                  May be better than the current pairing if the brains trust attack of having both centres just bash it up on short balls is going to stay.

                  maybe thats why they have big jim...if savea moves to midfield they need a good ball fetcher at 7

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                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                    An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

                    May be better than the current pairing if the brains trust attack of having both centres just bash it up on short balls is going to stay.

                    maybe thats why they have big jim...if savea moves to midfield they need a good ball fetcher at 7

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                    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                    An Ardie - Sotutu midfield pairing would have some punch.

                    May be better than the current pairing if the brains trust attack of having both centres just bash it up on short balls is going to stay.

                    maybe thats why they have big jim...if savea moves to midfield they need a good ball fetcher at 7

                    That'd make me laugh and cry with despair.

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                      Not sure if this has been mentioned but both Josh Fusitua & Josh Beehre have been added to the All Black training camp .
                      Got this from a reasonably reliable source

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                      • S Steven Harris

                        Not sure if this has been mentioned but both Josh Fusitua & Josh Beehre have been added to the All Black training camp .
                        Got this from a reasonably reliable source

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                        george33
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                        @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                        • S Steven Harris

                          Not sure if this has been mentioned but both Josh Fusitua & Josh Beehre have been added to the All Black training camp .
                          Got this from a reasonably reliable source

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                          handa457
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                          @Steven-Harris any other uncapped Canes or Blues players there this week?

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                            @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                            @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

                            https://media.tenor.com/1TljxtX5DyYAAAAM/huh-hmm.gif

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                              @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                                @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

                                can you try that again? do you mean he said no he didn;t want to go to camp?

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

                                  can you try that again? do you mean he said no he didn;t want to go to camp?

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                                  @Kiwiwomble just heard that Lashes guy on SportNation, saying Hoskins turned down , camp, who knows

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                                    @Kiwiwomble just heard that Lashes guy on SportNation, saying Hoskins turned down , camp, who knows

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                                    @george33 sorry the commas are throwing me

                                    if true then that would have to be damming, about to sign overseas?

                                    you imagine you have to have a good reason to turn down an AB training camp, didn't Brad Thorne do it once when he couldnt commit and was about to go back to league?

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                                      @Kiwiwomble just heard that Lashes guy on SportNation, saying Hoskins turned down , camp, who knows

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                                      @george33 listen back, it's there.

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                                        @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                                          @george33 listen back, it's there.

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                                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @george33 listen back, it's there.

                                          From today? Yesterday? On Mills and Guy show? Listen back when?

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