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  • FrankF Frank

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

    Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

    Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

    remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

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      @george33 Hoskins was in Tauranga at the camp. Flew down this morning, was back in Auckland by the afternoon.
      It was a physical/medical check type of visit with the AB docs/trainers.
      Make of that what you will

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      @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

      Flew down this morning

      A flight from Auckland to Tauranga should be a criminal offence.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

        He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

        Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

        remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

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        African Monkey
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        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

        He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

        Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

        remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

        Fully agree.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!

          Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?

          Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!

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          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

          @ARHS I saw an internet article picking Semisi Tupou Ta'eiloa!

          Haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere else and I was pretty much "who"?

          Be a bigger bolter than Tosi!

          Don't think he's eligible for selection so would be a big surprise indeed...

          Few potential bolter options would be Reihana, Beehre, Rona, Howden, Taele.

          Don't think any of the other new caps discussed on here would be classed as bolters given they've been in the frame for a little while.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

            He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

            Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

            remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

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            KiwiMurph
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            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

            He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

            Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

            remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

            I wouldn't mind the approach if we had a world class loose forward group that he was trying to break into.

            We don't.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

              He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

              Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

              remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

              I wouldn't mind the approach if we had a world class loose forward group that he was trying to break into.

              We don't.

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              canefan
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              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

              He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

              Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

              remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

              I wouldn't mind the approach if we had a world class loose forward group that he was trying to break into.

              We don't.

              And it's not like we're dominating our opposition. The coaches should question how successful their tactics are and modify them to improve

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                Isn't George Bell the new Dane Coles anyway?

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                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                  @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Flew down this morning

                  A flight from Auckland to Tauranga should be a criminal offence.

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                  @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Flew down this morning

                  A flight from Auckland to Tauranga should be a criminal offence.

                  The traffic going into Tauranga in the morning is a total nightmare. Seriously, it's now a 3+ hour trip with traffic

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                  • B brodean

                    Isn't George Bell the new Dane Coles anyway?

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                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Isn't George Bell the new Dane Coles anyway?

                    surpassed by Mouanunu!

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                      If Taele is selected then I will pine for Havili and Fihaki.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        If Taele is selected then I will pine for Havili and Fihaki.

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                        African Monkey
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                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                        If Taele is selected then I will pine for Havili and Fihaki.

                        Lol he's nowhere near selection.

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                        • FrankF Frank

                          @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                          He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

                          Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

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                          Nogusta
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                          @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                          He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

                          Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

                          Mark Telea playing for the Baas as well

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                          • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                            @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Flew down this morning

                            A flight from Auckland to Tauranga should be a criminal offence.

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                            @Yeetyaah said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Flew down this morning

                            A flight from Auckland to Tauranga should be a criminal offence.

                            Mark Lundy shoulda given that some thought between Wellington and Palmy

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                              pakman
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                              Bok Barbers’ loosies are Cane/Frizell/Sotutu.

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                                Bok Barbers’ loosies are Cane/Frizell/Sotutu.

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                                Trig
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                                @pakman and Peter O'Mahony

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

                                  Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

                                  remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

                                  I wouldn't mind the approach if we had a world class loose forward group that he was trying to break into.

                                  We don't.

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                                  ACT Crusader
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                                  #3798

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

                                  Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

                                  remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

                                  I wouldn't mind the approach if we had a world class loose forward group that he was trying to break into.

                                  We don't.

                                  There was/is a world class player ahead of him in his position though and whilst said player and the former captain were almost certainties to play 80, there was an opting for versatile bench options that covered other positions.

                                  Not saying it was right or wrong but we have seen this before when Henry was coach and there was a period where Rodders was the only specialist no8 in a squad and there was a versatile Masoe selected.

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                                    @pakman and Peter O'Mahony

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                                    pakman
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                                    @Trig said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @pakman and Peter O'Mahony

                                    He’s just a shit Jerome Kaino.

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                                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      He's also gonna play for the ANZAC team as well against the Lions and hes been told to use these games as an opportunity to put himself in the frame for a recall

                                      Suggesting he will not be selected on Monday

                                      remember when coaches selected talented players and fixed their weaknesses? Dane Coles developed into a world class hooker with good coaching. We seem to just want to discard people who don't fit our mould at the moment. It's really frustrating.

                                      I wouldn't mind the approach if we had a world class loose forward group that he was trying to break into.

                                      We don't.

                                      There was/is a world class player ahead of him in his position though and whilst said player and the former captain were almost certainties to play 80, there was an opting for versatile bench options that covered other positions.

                                      Not saying it was right or wrong but we have seen this before when Henry was coach and there was a period where Rodders was the only specialist no8 in a squad and there was a versatile Masoe selected.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      there was an opting for versatile bench options that covered other positions.

                                      And how did that work out? Didn't the ABs have some insane stat last year in the Rugby Championship where they couldn't score in the second half/last 20 minutes?

                                      Here we go

                                      But as has been the case throughout this tournament, the All Blacks fell into an incredible second-half hole and could only add three points to their halftime total.
                                      
                                      For the fifth straight match in this competition, New Zealand failed to add any points in the final quarter and yet again saw their discipline and finishing drop off considerably.
                                      
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                                        reprobate
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                                        the numbers online are never consistently accurate, but to be honest they just don't matter anyway. Plenty of guys play bigger or smaller than they are. Dalton is a machine. An absolute fucking workhorse, but he's not a power runner, or a monster tackler, or a big lineout target - all of which is what we usually want from our 6.

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                                        • R reprobate

                                          the numbers online are never consistently accurate, but to be honest they just don't matter anyway. Plenty of guys play bigger or smaller than they are. Dalton is a machine. An absolute fucking workhorse, but he's not a power runner, or a monster tackler, or a big lineout target - all of which is what we usually want from our 6.

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                                          canefan
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                                          @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          the numbers online are never consistently accurate, but to be honest they just don't matter anyway. Plenty of guys play bigger or smaller than they are. Dalton is a machine. An absolute fucking workhorse, but he's not a power runner, or a monster tackler, or a big lineout target - all of which is what we usually want from our 6.

                                          Sounds like EB

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