2025 All Blacks v France series
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@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Looks like 4 backs in that formation - Ioane, ALB(???), DMac, Love
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Doubt he's lost much pace at all. I'd say he's still top 3 for pace in the squad.
The team that was selected for most of the games last year I believe was Razors preferred combo. He had many opportunities to select both ALB and Proctor more last year and he didn't.
Proctor didn't even feature in the match day 23 in Europe. ALB is coming back from injury. Every other midfielder is primarily a 12.
So I think Rieko is still in pole position to play most of the season at 13.
@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
So I think Rieko is still in pole position to play most of the season at 13.
I agree, but think Proctor will get significant time at 13 and start a few of the lesser games - and will give Reiko some time on the wing
I don't think Robertson can afford to be as ultra-conservative as he was last year.
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@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
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@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
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@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
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@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
It’s only France
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Because we are here to read into every bit of minutia around who was wearing red and who was in yellow, here’s some more footage
https://www.facebook.com/reel/726406739885106?fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr
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Rieko in the 23 jersey is something that I was hoping they would try last year - we got nothing out of that 23 jersey last year between ALB and Havili.
@KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Rieko in the 23 jersey is something that I was hoping they would try last year - we got nothing out of that 23 jersey last year between ALB and Havili.
They did try it. ALB started in that first Pumas test last year with Rieko on the bench.
You know. The one we lost.
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@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
It’s only France
@ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
It’s only France B...
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@KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Rieko in the 23 jersey is something that I was hoping they would try last year - we got nothing out of that 23 jersey last year between ALB and Havili.
They did try it. ALB started in that first Pumas test last year with Rieko on the bench.
You know. The one we lost.
@brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Rieko in the 23 jersey is something that I was hoping they would try last year - we got nothing out of that 23 jersey last year between ALB and Havili.
They did try it. ALB started in that first Pumas test last year with Rieko on the bench.
You know. The one we lost.
Yes fair. From memory ALB had a shocker that night. I guess I was thinking more Proctor 13.
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@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Looks like Love in the background in yellow in that last picture, which would make sense
Savea was also in a yellow bib so not sure if that’s a reflection of the starters vs non starters.
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
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@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
@nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
He’s not a 13
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@nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
He’s not a 13
@kiwiinmelb said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
He’s not a 13
Neither is Reiko
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@nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
He’s not a 13
@kiwiinmelb said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@nostrildamus said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Canes4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
It would be cool if they ran out something very different, a good melt down here over bold selections would make a change, at least.
Would certainly be innovative.
Maybe Ardie reads the Fern.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360741783/ardie-savea-returns-refreshed-all-blacks-ponder-new-loose-forward-trio-france-series
“I don't have a say, do I? Just wherever Razor needs me, or where I fit in best for the team, that's where I'll play,” Savea said, grinning.“If that's 12 or 13, then I do my best and try to put my best foot forward.
He’s not a 13
Probably better suited to 12. He has a kicking game too....
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@Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Unsure if this has been posted(probably has) but what I can confirm is Dyer has been in camp.
Do we know if he (and Ah Kuoi, for that matter) is just there as an extra body as with Bell and (I think it was) Blackadder in Christchurch last week, or if they've been brought in as actual injury cover?
@Mr-Fish said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Unsure if this has been posted(probably has) but what I can confirm is Dyer has been in camp.
Do we know if he (and Ah Kuoi, for that matter) is just there as an extra body as with Bell and (I think it was) Blackadder in Christchurch last week, or if they've been brought in as actual injury cover?
Earlier up thread it was suggested Newell may need rest. Speaking from experience an MCL strain needs about four weeks to come right.
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@Mr-Fish said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Unsure if this has been posted(probably has) but what I can confirm is Dyer has been in camp.
Do we know if he (and Ah Kuoi, for that matter) is just there as an extra body as with Bell and (I think it was) Blackadder in Christchurch last week, or if they've been brought in as actual injury cover?
Earlier up thread it was suggested Newell may need rest. Speaking from experience an MCL strain needs about four weeks to come right.
@Mr-Fish said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
@Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:
Unsure if this has been posted(probably has) but what I can confirm is Dyer has been in camp.
Do we know if he (and Ah Kuoi, for that matter) is just there as an extra body as with Bell and (I think it was) Blackadder in Christchurch last week, or if they've been brought in as actual injury cover?
Both extra bodies only (at this stage)