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    @1kiwi Fakatava.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    He doesn't have to play any games. If Robertson wants Leicester in the squad, NZR will let Robertson select him.

    NZR might publicly say that the requirement is to play NPC but they've ignored that rule in recent years when convenient.

    I can't think of any, who did they do that with?

    TJ Perenara when he returned from Japan a couple of years back.

    Oh true, that wasn't a sabbatical?

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    replied to KiwiMurph last edited by SBW1
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    @KiwiMurph He was around when we had a lot of depth at 10, pretty sure he faced the Lions when Dan Carter was injured.

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    @sparky Lakai all but started in 2024 against France, coming on in the 1st minute.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    He doesn't have to play any games. If Robertson wants Leicester in the squad, NZR will let Robertson select him.

    NZR might publicly say that the requirement is to play NPC but they've ignored that rule in recent years when convenient.

    I can't think of any, who did they do that with?

    TJ Perenara when he returned from Japan a couple of years back.

    Oh true, that wasn't a sabbatical?

    Nope, Perenara signed a new deal while he was overseas.

    Same situation with Barrett last year. Contract ended at NZR, didn't take a sabbatical, but signed a deal with NZ before going to Japan and was ushered straight into the team for July (though that was something Barrett would have specifically negotiated in his new contract).

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    He doesn't have to play any games. If Robertson wants Leicester in the squad, NZR will let Robertson select him.

    NZR might publicly say that the requirement is to play NPC but they've ignored that rule in recent years when convenient.

    I can't think of any, who did they do that with?

    The only one I can think is Luke McAlister was parachuted back in and given an exemption

    I think that was 08/09 so over 15 years ago and 4 AB coaches ago.

    And he was pants wasn't he?

    Lucky Luke would push the current incumbents

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    @stodders Yes and sorry to be pedantic, but he didn't start that game.

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    @1kiwi said in All Blacks 2025:

    With Noah Hotham under an injury cloud and may need to be replaced, who is the next cab off the rank? Xavier Roe, Kyle Preston?
    But please no Christie.

    Preston has some attributes that the ABs could do with (solid kicking game off both feet and pace), but he showed this year he can be a bit sloppy when clearing the ball under pressure. I think he needs more time.

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    Would not be surprised if Mark Telea is brought into the squad and could even face the Boks.

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    I think Ratima has been a bit disappointing to be honest. If Hotham is out I'd prefer Fakatava - he was one of very few highlights in the AUNZ lions game, service looked crisp.

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    @reprobate I thought he was good in the 3rd test.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @reprobate I thought he was good in the 3rd test.

    Yeah I thought he alright. The only problem I have with Ratima as back up to Roigard is that they are very similar players, with Ratima not being quite as good.

    I think there are other options as the back up 9 who are just as good as Ratima but bring something a bit different.

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    It's quite annoying that Mark Tele’a is playing NPC and is not around the ABs squad when Razor and co whinge about selection eligibility of players like Mounga and Frizell.

    Tele’a had a quiet season in the beginning of SRP but came could in the end. He's still comfortably the best right wing in the country if Jordan is playing fullback.

    I can't remember a single good game Reece has played against the Boks and he's also had some poor games against the Puma's like the one we lost last year in Wellington.

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    He will almost certainly be brought if there is a slipup against the Pumas.

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    Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    He doesn't have to play any games. If Robertson wants Leicester in the squad, NZR will let Robertson select him.

    NZR might publicly say that the requirement is to play NPC but they've ignored that rule in recent years when convenient.

    I can't think of any, who did they do that with?

    TJ Perenara when he returned from Japan a couple of years back.

    Oh true, that wasn't a sabbatical?

    Sure that was a sabbatical.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

    I reckon we could just about claim that Sky Stadium should be considered an away game for us so could say that

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Pumas will certainly be targeting those games against us. Am I correct in saying they haven't beaten us at home yet?

    Christchuch 3 years ago I believe. Will google.

    Argentina beat All Blacks in Wellington

    38-30 in Wellington last year

    Edit: and CHC 2 years before that
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300671887/argentina-stun-illdisciplined-all-blacks-in-christchurch-to-bag-historic-win

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    In Argentina, no.

    Screenshot 2025-07-25 at 16.20.20.png

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    replied to nzzp last edited by brodean
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    @nzzp

    At home for Argentina. The games are over there this year and looks like they haven't beaten us on their home ground.

    They beat the Lions so if their best players like Albernoz are around they will target their maiden win against us on their home soil.

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