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All Blacks 2025

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  • Z zedsdeadbaby

    Agreed. If Christie is going to be your 4th best, then you may as well opt for someone new.

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    @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

    Agreed. If Christie is going to be your 4th best, then you may as well opt for someone new.

    No way, the worst thing we can do is throw in a kid at test level and stuff his confidence. We still got tests to try and win, so play who coaches think are best.

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      @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

      Agreed. If Christie is going to be your 4th best, then you may as well opt for someone new.

      No way, the worst thing we can do is throw in a kid at test level and stuff his confidence. We still got tests to try and win, so play who coaches think are best.

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      @Dan54 Roe, Fakatava, Preston or Funaki aren't kids they're mid 20s fellas who need to keep their phone nearby, a kid would be a true bolter like Dylan Pledger but that would be truly insane

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        Christie is shit and should be nowhere near the All Blacks.

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        • A African Monkey

          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

          Cortez, Fakatava, Funaki/Roe.

          Preston will be in there.

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          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

          Cortez, Fakatava, Funaki/Roe.

          Preston will be in there.

          Well he is a Crusader so there's that. He's a lot less experienced than the others but the same age. Not convinced he's more deserving than the others but he is a good impact player.

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            @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

            @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            Cortez, Fakatava, Funaki/Roe.

            Preston will be in there.

            Well he is a Crusader so there's that. He's a lot less experienced than the others but the same age. Not convinced he's more deserving than the others but he is a good impact player.

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            @brodean why does that matter? Razor has never coached him so don't see any connection

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            • C Chuck72

              @brodean why does that matter? Razor has never coached him so don't see any connection

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              @Chuck72 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @brodean why does that matter? Razor has never coached him so don't see any connection

              There's been a bunch of Crusaders selections that have been a bit on the nose so it won't be surprising.

              If he's selected over any of the other three of Roe, Fakatava or Funaki he is being selected as a bolter based on potential.

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                So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                No show.

                Chiefs: Roe.

                Outside chance.

                Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                Christie the best option.

                Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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                  At this point, with Roigard and Hotham down for the Pumas tests, at least one of the injury covers needs international experience, so Christie is a non brainer.
                  The Argie gig is not a development tour.

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                    Christie was pulled out due to a shoulder injury.

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                      With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

                      Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

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                        Sounds like some of these injuries is more precautionary than anything.

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                        • S SouthernMann

                          So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                          Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                          Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                          Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                          Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                          Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                          No show.

                          Chiefs: Roe.

                          Outside chance.

                          Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                          Christie the best option.

                          Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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                          @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                          So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                          Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                          Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                          Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                          Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                          Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                          No show.

                          Chiefs: Roe.

                          Outside chance.

                          Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                          Christie the best option.

                          Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

                          Fakatava and Roe.

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                              Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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                              • Z zedsdeadbaby

                                Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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                                @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

                                You think so? I think he's a bloody good 9 at NPC level, still needs to sharpen his pass. Never really saw him as a high level halfback.

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                                  zedsdeadbaby
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                                  Was really impressed last year when he deputised when Roigard was out but maybe it’s just me

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

                                    Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    With Christie, we've experienced his experience and it's a no from me.

                                    Folly is a dog returning to its own vomit or the All Blacks coaching team continually picking players whose skills clearly aren't up to international standard.

                                    If were World Cup year then considering Christie might be an option

                                    But we're not, so pick Fakatava. Roe or Funaki

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                                    • S SouthernMann

                                      So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                                      Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                                      Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                                      Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                                      Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                                      Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                                      No show.

                                      Chiefs: Roe.

                                      Outside chance.

                                      Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                                      Christie the best option.

                                      Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

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                                      booboo
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                                      @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      So we need halfbacks 4&5.

                                      Highlanders: Fakatava, Lennox, Arscott and Hastie.

                                      Only Fakatava is a viable option.

                                      Crusaders: Drummond and Preston.

                                      Would be a massive shout to bring Preston in there.

                                      Hurricanes: Viljoen.

                                      No show.

                                      Chiefs: Roe.

                                      Outside chance.

                                      Blues: Funaki, Nock and Christie.

                                      Christie the best option.

                                      Out of that lot, Fakatava and Christie have to be favoured. With Roe and Preston as outside chances.

                                      I'm going the opposite to you.

                                      Roe and Preston. Fakatava for Preston maybe.

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                                      • Z zedsdeadbaby

                                        Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

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                                        @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Viljoen might have been a goer now if he’d not been bizarrely overlooked for Enari consistently for some reason during Super Rugby. I rate him, probably higher than Roe.

                                        Not picking Viljoen yet. But agree his absence was bizarre.

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                                          The Eden Park record makes me want experience. There will be two injury covers, so FC and Funaki or Fakatava.

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