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All Blacks 2025

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    Extremely hard to argue against an anti-Blues bias. Getting to the point that it will affect our ability to attract talent, as players with AB ambitions will look at the Cantab Coaches and wonder if they have to move to be picked.

    Christie is only there as injury cover, and as soon as Barrett is back they'll boot Patrick who's playing fantastic.

    Forget the drama around Sotutu, which shows the coaches in a poor light, not picking Dalton is pathetic.

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    • Dan54D Dan54

      @sparky Josh Lord isn't injured mate.

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      @Dan54 I thought he failed a HIA at the weekend.

      https://twitter.com/rugby_scoop/status/1951569716788785570?s=46

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      • sparkyS sparky

        @Dan54 I thought he failed a HIA at the weekend.

        https://twitter.com/rugby_scoop/status/1951569716788785570?s=46

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        @sparky No. They said Lord passed his HIA but Barnes decided to not to put him back on the field.

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          Razor says Parker can also play 8.

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            brodean
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            The tight five is the best thing about this ABs squad.

            The loose forwards, halfbacks, and 13 are pretty inexperienced and the 10s are rocks and diamonds.

            It will be a real challenge for this squad to win games in arguably the toughest opposition of the twenties across the three other RC teams.

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            • canefanC canefan

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              How the fuck did combover win so many SR titles?

              Four of the loose forwards are effectively carbon copies of each other.

              Richie McCaw. Dan Carter.

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              Kiwiwomble
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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              How the fuck did combover win so many SR titles?

              Four of the loose forwards are effectively carbon copies of each other.

              Richie McCaw. Dan Carter.

              both left the saders before razors time.....

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                It sounds like Mafileo got selected for his ability to play both sides in a touring party. Williams should be available for test 2.

                Parker, Lakai and Lord will play NPC in Rd 2. Darry needs more game time.

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                  I’ve just watch Tupou Vaa’i put in some of the better back to back performances we’ve seen and Ardie Savea play great rugby back at openside, yet people are moaning about the loose forward mix?

                  Sititi was great last year, deservedly comes back in and gets a go at 8. Parker, who was everyone’s favourite bolter also comes in presumably as the backup 8.

                  Kirifi, who many wanted to be given a chance, is retained, and Lakai, who went past Papalii last year, and by most accounts is a very special player returns from injury.

                  Squabbling about Sotutu (and Akira Ioane!) is a waste of time. They want fetchers at 7, and Papalii isn’t that.

                  Jacobson possibly fortunate, but on paper he shapes as the last picked loosie anyway. This meltdown is crazy.

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                  • F frugby

                    I’ve just watch Tupou Vaa’i put in some of the better back to back performances we’ve seen and Ardie Savea play great rugby back at openside, yet people are moaning about the loose forward mix?

                    Sititi was great last year, deservedly comes back in and gets a go at 8. Parker, who was everyone’s favourite bolter also comes in presumably as the backup 8.

                    Kirifi, who many wanted to be given a chance, is retained, and Lakai, who went past Papalii last year, and by most accounts is a very special player returns from injury.

                    Squabbling about Sotutu (and Akira Ioane!) is a waste of time. They want fetchers at 7, and Papalii isn’t that.

                    Jacobson possibly fortunate, but on paper he shapes as the last picked loosie anyway. This meltdown is crazy.

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                    brodean
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                    @frugby

                    Hardly a meltdown. People are allowed to express disappointment without it being called a meltdown

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                      If you think this is a meltdown, then you've never seen the Fern in full on meltdown time.

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        Extremely hard to argue against an anti-Blues bias. Getting to the point that it will affect our ability to attract talent, as players with AB ambitions will look at the Cantab Coaches and wonder if they have to move to be picked.

                        Christie is only there as injury cover, and as soon as Barrett is back they'll boot Patrick who's playing fantastic.

                        Forget the drama around Sotutu, which shows the coaches in a poor light, not picking Dalton is pathetic.

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                        @Kirwan are you for real? Those “cantab” coaches selected 6 Crusaders in a 35 man squad…

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                          I’ve just watch Tupou Vaa’i put in some of the better back to back performances we’ve seen and Ardie Savea play great rugby back at openside, yet people are moaning about the loose forward mix?

                          Sititi was great last year, deservedly comes back in and gets a go at 8. Parker, who was everyone’s favourite bolter also comes in presumably as the backup 8.

                          Kirifi, who many wanted to be given a chance, is retained, and Lakai, who went past Papalii last year, and by most accounts is a very special player returns from injury.

                          Squabbling about Sotutu (and Akira Ioane!) is a waste of time. They want fetchers at 7, and Papalii isn’t that.

                          Jacobson possibly fortunate, but on paper he shapes as the last picked loosie anyway. This meltdown is crazy.

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @frugby since when does a few passing comments = a meltdown, wild take

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                            How dare any of us question the coaches?

                            Razor is always right.

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                            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                              @frugby since when does a few passing comments = a meltdown, wild take

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                              @Kiwiwomble People are moaning for moaning sake - it’s boring. The loosies went well against France, and the only changes are the addition of Parker and Lakai.

                              Papalii was only ever there as cover, as I say they want a fetcher at 7, and he is not that. The things Papalii did well, don’t compliment the rest of the trio.

                              I think the big positive is the coaches have actually identified what they want each position to do, they clearly want a huge blindside who is a lineout option (Vaa’i, Parker & Finau), a fetcher at 7, and a ball playing eight.

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                                #4736

                                Supposedly they are looking for size and that’s why Parker is there and they played Va’ii at 6. But then they select Lakai, who is far smaller than Blackadder, Grace, Papalii, Lio-Willie etc. Makes very little sense.

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                                • StagS Stag

                                  @Kirwan are you for real? Those “cantab” coaches selected 6 Crusaders in a 35 man squad…

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                                  @Stag yep no overwhelming cantab bias this season. Last year social media did go into rage when Fihaki and Bell were around the team. Truth is Taylor, Williams, Newell, Barrett & Jordan obviously in our best 23. Preston gets in as cover ok but he's just cover. Reece well here's hoping 1 of the chiefs wingers can leap ahead of him

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                                    If the coaches think Dalton Papalii isn't a fetcher, then coach him to be a fetcher. To dismiss him as "not a fetcher" shows a closed mindset.

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                                      #4739

                                      Reminds me of the Wayne Smith ABs, and also the Mitchell Blacks. They tried to play fast and wide, but IIRC we were undone by teams that took us to task up the guts. If the Lions series suggested anything, it's the importance of the collision area and the breakdown (surprise surprise)

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        If the coaches think Dalton Papalii isn't a fetcher, then coach him to be a fetcher. To dismiss him as "not a fetcher" shows a closed mindset.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        If the coaches think Dalton Papalii isn't a fetcher, then coach him to be a fetcher. To dismiss him as "not a fetcher" shows a closed mindset.

                                        Perhaps they tried that last year when he was in the squad and it didn't take

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