All Blacks 2025
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
I think we got a bit of potential at 10 with young fellas, like Simpson and Cole. Only kids , but I see them as future, probably 3-5 years away, but thats is what it is. I still reckon Jacomb will be ok to fill in as he gets experience.
Yeah it feels like we are in a holding pattern for now, with no one seemingly ready. It can change quickly though, it wasnt long ago we were worried about 9, now we have some good options there.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:
@Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:
I think we got a bit of potential at 10 with young fellas, like Simpson and Cole. Only kids , but I see them as future, probably 3-5 years away, but thats is what it is. I still reckon Jacomb will be ok to fill in as he gets experience.
Yeah it feels like we are in a holding pattern for now, with no one seemingly ready. It can change quickly though, it wasnt long ago we were worried about 9, now we have some good options there.
It would help if Razor (and Fozzie before him) would select the form 10s of SR and see what they can do. Say what you want about Plummer, and Reihana after him. They played significant roles in helping their teams win SR titles and deserved some consideration. Love showed ability at the position until Laidlaw moved him back to 15. It's about time some of these guys were given a fair go in the squad, both in terms of coaching and real playing time in real matches
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
This silly meme has always made me chuckle, the fact it’s true makes Razor seem all the more ridiculous in his Moungaism
You could make the same meme for Steve Hansen with Aaron Cruden at No 1, and Beauden Barret acting like a entitled champion with an interior win rate.
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@tubbyj for sure, Aaron Cruden was a much better 10 than Beauden, what we'd give for someone of his class right now
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
This silly meme has always made me chuckle, the fact it’s true makes Razor seem all the more ridiculous in his Moungaism
You could make the same meme for Steve Hansen with Aaron Cruden at No 1, and Beauden Barret acting like a entitled champion with an interior win rate.
Can you do it ? I’m not very tech savvy
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The whole thing fucks me off. If it were a club team, I'd hope that the whole thing would blow up in Robertson's face, that McKenzie would leave, then Mounga would come back and suck, and the team lose terribly as a direct result
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm far from delighted about this deal.
Watching two World Cup failures where we built the team around Richie Mo'unga was depressing enough. His limitations were ruthlessly exposed by England in Yokohama in 2019 and the Springboks in Paris in 2023. I doubt he's learned to manage limited time on the ball against an extremely organised rushed defence since.
I do not wish to see us lose a third World Cup because of Richie Mo'unga's average game management skills.
If he really is our best First Five and worth all the money NZR is throwing at him, then why aren't we making him available for the five-week tour of South Africa next year?
2019 sure he wasn’t at his best in the semi, but we simply got out muscled and out coached.
2023 final he was very good with his only error was missing that goal kick. He got us moving forward plenty.
Let’s just see how he goes when he returns. He was playing well in Japan but we’ve seen only one or two come back better to NZ from their time there with many not returning to their once AB test form.
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There are a few comments here suggesting Mo’unga is still going to have to play well once back in New Zealand, before he makes the All Blacks and if he isn’t up to it, he’ll be dropped.
The problem is, if Robertson thinks he has his answer at first five in Mo’unga, he isn’t going to bother with a plan B. Mo’unga turns out to be awful upon return and it’s Barrett at first five for the World Cup.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones Since when is a comment about him hypothetically being in talks with Rugby 360 being about a player moving? Probably could be his next move, who knows, dude must be loaded.
Yeah, true, it's not about him moving.
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@tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
This silly meme has always made me chuckle, the fact it’s true makes Razor seem all the more ridiculous in his Moungaism
You could make the same meme for Steve Hansen with Aaron Cruden at No 1, and Beauden Barret acting like a entitled champion with an interior win rate.
That decisions from Hanse has had dire consequences for the ABs for the last decade.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
If i was DMac i would have my agent on the phone now and get the fuck out. Take that money Damo, and cheers for the Chiefs memories.
What are the odds Rivez Reihana follows suit a la Harry Plummer?
It would be odd for a super rugby rookie who was injured a majority of the season, who won a super rugby title, left because he wasn’t in the frame for the 2027 RWC? Delusions of grandeur if he thought Mounga signing for 2 years would do his career prospects in NZ any harm
Lets face it. Their are 3 players ahead of him lesding up to the 2027 RWC.
Once its finished, those players will be not be in NZ anymore