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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    If i was DMac i would have my agent on the phone now and get the fuck out. Take that money Damo, and cheers for the Chiefs memories.

    What are the odds Rivez Reihana follows suit a la Harry Plummer?

    It would be odd for a super rugby rookie who was injured a majority of the season, who won a super rugby title, left because he wasn’t in the frame for the 2027 RWC? Delusions of grandeur if he thought Mounga signing for 2 years would do his career prospects in NZ any harm

    Lets face it. Their are 3 players ahead of him lesding up to the 2027 RWC.

    Once its finished, those players will be not be in NZ anymore

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    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    If i was DMac i would have my agent on the phone now and get the fuck out. Take that money Damo, and cheers for the Chiefs memories.

    What are the odds Rivez Reihana follows suit a la Harry Plummer?

    It would be odd for a super rugby rookie who was injured a majority of the season, who won a super rugby title, left because he wasn’t in the frame for the 2027 RWC? Delusions of grandeur if he thought Mounga signing for 2 years would do his career prospects in NZ any harm

    Lets face it. Their are 3 players ahead of him lesding up to the 2027 RWC.

    You may want to tell the coach.

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      Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

      I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

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        Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

        I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

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        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

        Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

        I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

        I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

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        • canefanC canefan

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

          Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

          I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

          I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

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          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

          Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

          I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

          I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

          I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

            Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

            I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

            I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

            I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

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            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

            Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

            I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

            I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

            I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

            That makes me unhappy.

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

              Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

              I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

              I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

              I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

              That makes me unhappy.

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

              Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

              I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

              I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

              I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

              That makes me unhappy.

              Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

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                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                That makes me unhappy.

                Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

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                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                That makes me unhappy.

                Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

                Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.

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                    @nzzp Richie Mo'unga never worked out how to play against the rushed defence and I doubt he's done so in Japan.

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                      Update: from the Breakdown. They are a bit disingenuous - sounds like these stats are 'any time played' not 'started at 10'. Still interestin.

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                        Black definitely ought to have won at least one of the Bok tests last year, so DMac could easily be at 50-63% against them.

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                          Barrett has started at 10 against Ireland on eight occasions and NZ have won three of those games.

                          Can't be bothered looking at all the others but clearly very disingenuous stats.

                          I would expect Barrett should have the highest winning percentage at 10, Mo'unga second and McKenzie third just based on NZ's relative dominance during each of the periods they occupied the jersey.

                          In terms of their actual performances, I'd say they're all relatively similar but Barrett has previously had the easiest ride.

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                          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                            I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                            I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                            I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                            That makes me unhappy.

                            Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

                            Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                            I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                            I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                            I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                            That makes me unhappy.

                            Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

                            Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.

                            I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with the point @Nepia was making.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                              I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                              I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                              I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                              That makes me unhappy.

                              Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

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                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                              I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                              I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                              I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                              That makes me unhappy.

                              Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

                              Fixed

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                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                                I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                                I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                                I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                                That makes me unhappy.

                                Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

                                Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.

                                I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with the point @Nepia was making.

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Going to be interesting with mounga , I get the impression razor also thought Blackadder may have been the answer at 6 at international level until he saw it is different to super rugby.

                                I don’t have a problem with it being tried , just hope he isn’t putting all his eggs in one basket.

                                I don't want his man love to cloud his judgement any more than it already is. The fact that he has appeared to have moved on from Blackadder is promising. But he has already let one quality SR 10 leave, and favours one who is diminished over a guy who may not be the answer but is probably worth more of a punt than he's got to date

                                I am not so sure he has moved on from Blackadder. Someone suggested Blackadder has been quite unwell. If true, I'd imagine Razor would know that and that Blackadder will be off his usual game. It could be a case of taking the chance to look at others while Blackadder is down.

                                That makes me unhappy.

                                Can't say I noticed him being off his usual game ...

                                Me neither, but he copped a bit after the first week of NPC when some thought he was a lot quieter than expected. That's when someone claimed he had been pretty sick.

                                I'm not sure if you're disagreeing with the point @Nepia was making.

                                Yeah, I did suspect @nepia had his tongue in his cheek, but decided to take him seriously anyway.

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                                  An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

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                                    An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

                                    Fastest? He'd probably make a decent winger then

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                                      An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

                                      This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.

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                                        Caleb Clarke next fastest.

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                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

                                          This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          An interesting gem that Justin Marshall picked up, I assume from the AB coaches, Reiko Ioane is the fastest player in the AB squad with Leroy Carter not far behind.

                                          This has been known for quite a number of years. Nic Gill said this back when he was the trainer.

                                          Nick Gill is still the trainer isn't he?

                                          Either this info is out of date, the team is incredibly slow or Rieko is carrying an injury because 2025 Rieko is nowhere near as fast as 2017 Rieko.

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