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All Blacks 2025

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    #5097

    Have to say things are heating up in SH rugby.
    Australia looking better than they have in years. Argentina competitive.
    AB forwards finally developing real strength after years of being sub par.
    WC Australia 2027.
    Plenty to look forward to.

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      brodean
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      Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

      Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

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        Billy Proctor's playing well enough not to be given the boot, but not well enough to convince anyone he's the long-term answer at 13.

        Options there are thin. I am happy to give Billy Proctor another outing, but we'll need to see more accuracy and impact or else it will be Reiko Ioane in the 13 jersey to face the Boks.

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          Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

          Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

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          #5100

          @brodean Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan are outstanding, so is Cam Roigard when he's fit. Options beyond that are rather thin.

          I can't helping them we need to be a bit braver at picking backs who impress in Super Rugby and the NPC ahead of old staggers.

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            Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

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            #5101

            @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

            Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

            That's terrible news. He's done a great job this year.

            Hopefully he willl see that doctor who healed Waisake Naholo's leg a few years ago and be back for the EOYT.

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              Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

              Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

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              @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

              Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

              Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

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              • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

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                @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

                Not even close to this century I'd say. Debatable even this decade.

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                • B brodean

                  Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                  Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

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                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                  It's nice to win the first four games of the season, but let's see how we go next week, then again the Boks, the Wobs and against the British Isles teams.

                  A long way to go this year.

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Alternatively the 10 is giving him what he wants.

                    Chaos? He's on record saying he wants fast pace, wide running rugby. So I guess that's what he's trying to give us, from Wayne Smith's playbook, or what he understands as his playbook

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Alternatively the 10 is giving him what he wants.

                    Chaos? He's on record saying he wants fast pace, wide running rugby. So I guess that's what he's trying to give us, from Wayne Smith's playbook, or what he understands as his playbook

                    He should tell the backs to pass the ball wide a bit faster then, rather than shovel it along the line.

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                    • C chchfanatic

                      Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

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                      booboo
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                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

                      Fark. On multiple levels.

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                        #5107

                        Sometimes I think JB kicking it 60m down town would be a good option.

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                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                          Sometimes I think JB kicking it 60m down town would be a good option.

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                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Sometimes I think JB kicking it 60m down town would be a good option.

                          Sometimes?

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                            Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

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                            akan004
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                            @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

                            Why are we getting so many injuries this year? Massive blow.

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                              Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

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                              #5110

                              @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Paddy Tups with a fractured scull. Won’t see him again this year I suspect.

                              Big shame for himself and the team , in a purple patch of form , great weapon off the bench like he was way back in about 2014 ? before the hip surgery

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                                On the subject of the target RWC winning 10, the prototype would have to be Pollard, for at least the final 30.

                                Not sure any NZ 10 fits the mold.

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                                  @brodean Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan are outstanding, so is Cam Roigard when he's fit. Options beyond that are rather thin.

                                  I can't helping them we need to be a bit braver at picking backs who impress in Super Rugby and the NPC ahead of old staggers.

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                                  brodean
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                                  #5112

                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @brodean Jordie Barrett and Will Jordan are outstanding, so is Cam Roigard when he's fit. Options beyond that are rather thin.

                                  I can't helping them we need to be a bit braver at picking backs who impress in Super Rugby and the NPC ahead of old staggers.

                                  That's just individual brilliance at the moment though from JB, Jordan and Roigard. Im talking about a functional coordinated attack. A collective.

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                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                                    Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                                    Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

                                    Not even close to this century I'd say. Debatable even this decade.

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                                    brodean
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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                                    Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                                    Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

                                    Not even close to this century I'd say. Debatable even this decade.

                                    There were lots of periods this century when our tight five was mediocre. 2010 to 2017 was great. Lots of mediocrity for the rest of the time.

                                    Our scrum, lineout and maul are keeping us in games while our backs squander good ball or are off the field with ill discipline.

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                                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Sometimes I think JB kicking it 60m down town would be a good option.

                                      Sometimes?

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                                      @voodoo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Sometimes I think JB kicking it 60m down town would be a good option.

                                      Sometimes?

                                      Ok, all day

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                                        On the subject of the target RWC winning 10, the prototype would have to be Pollard, for at least the final 30.

                                        Not sure any NZ 10 fits the mold.

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                                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        On the subject of the target RWC winning 10, the prototype would have to be Pollard, for at least the final 30.

                                        Not sure any NZ 10 fits the mold.

                                        Plummer could have

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                                          Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                                          Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

                                          Not even close to this century I'd say. Debatable even this decade.

                                          There were lots of periods this century when our tight five was mediocre. 2010 to 2017 was great. Lots of mediocrity for the rest of the time.

                                          Our scrum, lineout and maul are keeping us in games while our backs squander good ball or are off the field with ill discipline.

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                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Is it fair to say the current backline is the worst of the twenties? Just seems to have gone from bad to worse in the Razor era.

                                          Luckily we have one of the strongest 1 to 6 this century and depth there too

                                          Savea 7 , Sititi 8 and Roigard 9. You can just about make a case 1 to 9.

                                          Not even close to this century I'd say. Debatable even this decade.

                                          There were lots of periods this century when our tight five was mediocre. 2010 to 2017 was great. Lots of mediocrity for the rest of the time.

                                          Our scrum, lineout and maul are keeping us in games while our backs squander good ball or are off the field with ill discipline.

                                          Oh right ok, I'll concede that if you pick out all the mediocre tight 5's this century, this would be one of the strongest. Glad we got that sorted.

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