All Blacks v Argentina II
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@booboo 9 & 10 were the ones i missed!
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@booboo 9 & 10 were the ones i missed!
I missed Mils, but assumed Conrad had made it.
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It was actually difficult to find a comprehensive list. Top 10 were on Wiki.
I've put the list with spoilers...
1 Sam Whitelock Lock 2010–2023 153
2 Richie McCaw Flanker 2001–2015 148
3 Beauden Barrett Fly-half 2012– 137
4 Keven Mealamu Hooker 2002–2015 132
5 Kieran Read Number 8 2008–2019 127
6 Aaron Smith Scrum-half 2012–2023 125
7 Tony Woodcock Prop 2002–2015 118
8 Dan Carter Fly-half 2003–2015 112
9 Brodie Retallick Lock 2012–2023 109
10 Owen Franks Prop 2009–2019 108
11 Sam Cane 104
12 Ma'a Nonu 103
13 Malili Muliaina 100But feel free to measure yourself.
@booboo said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
It was actually difficult to find a comprehensive list. Top 10 were on Wiki.
I've put the list with spoilers...
1 Sam Whitelock Lock 2010–2023 153
2 Richie McCaw Flanker 2001–2015 148
3 Beauden Barrett Fly-half 2012– 137
4 Keven Mealamu Hooker 2002–2015 132
5 Kieran Read Number 8 2008–2019 127
6 Aaron Smith Scrum-half 2012–2023 125
7 Tony Woodcock Prop 2002–2015 118
8 Dan Carter Fly-half 2003–2015 112
9 Brodie Retallick Lock 2012–2023 109
10 Owen Franks Prop 2009–2019 108
11 Sam Cane 104
12 Ma'a Nonu 103
13 Malili Muliaina 100But feel free to measure yourself.
The 2015 RWC contained 13 of the to be 14.
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@cgrant my eyes have been impressed with Beehre's carrying this season.
Like Props, we seem to have some serious depth at lock.
If only the same for 10...
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Anyone watching the Wallabies Bok game, the value of a speedster like Toole and Kobe makes the selection of Leroy Carter that much more needed. The Bok are constantly struggling with speed out wide
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Anyone watching the Wallabies Bok game, the value of a speedster like Toole and Kobe makes the selection of Leroy Carter that much more needed. The Bok are constantly struggling with speed out wide
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@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
Would kill to have Jane on the wing rn
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
He is the quickest in NZ
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fastest-in-new-zealand-the-shock-revelation-on-snubbed-all-black-prospect/ -
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Huge congratulations to Codie Taylor on reaching 100 Tests. He's been around since 2015. He watched and learned from the great Dane Coles, worked damn hard and has now become perhaps the first name on the AB team sheet.
Can remember when he was regarded on here with Christie-like reverence.
Classic case of the Fern living up to it's motto
Feel free to actually include some context.
In 2022 Codie Taylor's form fell of a cliff. From memory there was some oil in here that he had some off the field issues he was working through
In 2022 Samisoni had a breakout year and really started putting pressure on
More recently Codie Taylor has hit a real purple patch of form and Samisoni's form has dropped away (though a highly promising display last week).
Samisoni was injured last year disnt play a test
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Huge congratulations to Codie Taylor on reaching 100 Tests. He's been around since 2015. He watched and learned from the great Dane Coles, worked damn hard and has now become perhaps the first name on the AB team sheet.
Can remember when he was regarded on here with Christie-like reverence.
Classic case of the Fern living up to it's motto
Feel free to actually include some context.
In 2022 Codie Taylor's form fell of a cliff. From memory there was some oil in here that he had some off the field issues he was working through
In 2022 Samisoni had a breakout year and really started putting pressure on
More recently Codie Taylor has hit a real purple patch of form and Samisoni's form has dropped away (though a highly promising display last week).
Samisoni was injured last year disnt play a test
His 2023 form wasn't as strong as his 2022 form though
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
He is the quickest in NZ
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fastest-in-new-zealand-the-shock-revelation-on-snubbed-all-black-prospect/ -
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Huge congratulations to Codie Taylor on reaching 100 Tests. He's been around since 2015. He watched and learned from the great Dane Coles, worked damn hard and has now become perhaps the first name on the AB team sheet.
Can remember when he was regarded on here with Christie-like reverence.
Classic case of the Fern living up to it's motto
Feel free to actually include some context.
In 2022 Codie Taylor's form fell of a cliff. From memory there was some oil in here that he had some off the field issues he was working through
In 2022 Samisoni had a breakout year and really started putting pressure on
More recently Codie Taylor has hit a real purple patch of form and Samisoni's form has dropped away (though a highly promising display last week).
Samisoni was injured last year disnt play a test
His 2023 form wasn't as strong as his 2022 form though
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
Huge congratulations to Codie Taylor on reaching 100 Tests. He's been around since 2015. He watched and learned from the great Dane Coles, worked damn hard and has now become perhaps the first name on the AB team sheet.
Can remember when he was regarded on here with Christie-like reverence.
Classic case of the Fern living up to it's motto
Feel free to actually include some context.
In 2022 Codie Taylor's form fell of a cliff. From memory there was some oil in here that he had some off the field issues he was working through
In 2022 Samisoni had a breakout year and really started putting pressure on
More recently Codie Taylor has hit a real purple patch of form and Samisoni's form has dropped away (though a highly promising display last week).
Samisoni was injured last year disnt play a test
His 2023 form wasn't as strong as his 2022 form though
May have been second season syndrome.
I cant recall him being bad but it may have been that he had not seemed as noticeable because he wasnt brand new to the team.
Good to see he is back to playing well
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@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
He is the quickest in NZ
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fastest-in-new-zealand-the-shock-revelation-on-snubbed-all-black-prospect/@Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@Bones said in All Blacks v Argentina II:
@jimmyb yeah it's interesting, I'd definitely not rate Carter as a speedster. I'd be surprised if he's not one of the slower outside backs in the squad. Bloody quick off the mark and great anticipation and vision though.
I was always under the impression he was rapid? Ok maybe I take it back
I mean, he could be, but I'd cite sweet feet, lines and a fend as much more a weapon than pace. Jane mkII
He is the quickest in NZ
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/fastest-in-new-zealand-the-shock-revelation-on-snubbed-all-black-prospect/You're welcome.
Of concern though, he's 26 and a kiwi.
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After watching the Boks v Wallabies - it is very clear our kicking accuracy and chasing is not of the same standard as either of them.
I feel we get much more BB dinky kick, low probability bullshit when the 9 isn't kicking with accuracy themselves. Ratimas box kicks need to improve - the forwards have given him plenty to work with and he and BB really need to step up and control the game - not keep rolling the dice and hoping for the best.
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The Argentina Anthem seems longer and with more movements than a Charles Ives symphony,
