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    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

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    What worries me most after that horse shit performance (it was smellier than the Springboks' turd at Ellis Park) is the acceptance of an utterly abysmal All Blacks performance as something normal.

    Standards have fallen. Our decline was not inevitable.

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  • canefanC Online
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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    What worries me most after that horse shit performance (it was smellier than the Springboks' turd at Ellis Park) is the acceptance of an utterly abysmal All Blacks performance as something normal.

    Standards have fallen. Our decline was not inevitable.

    I still think we have the makings of a strong team. But the coaches are letting us down in terms of selection, preparation, and tactics. I think that's what you call an epic failure...

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

    George Ford hit the post with a pen from right in front, and subsequently missed a drop goal on the hooter to win the game for England.

    England "lost" that game. It was in their hands and we were spectators. We didnt "win" it.

    Razor is very lucky the ledger is as "good" as it is.

    Even in our wins we go life and death with everyone.

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  • canefanC Online
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

    George Ford hit the post with a pen from right in front, and subsequently missed a drop goal on the hooter to win the game for England.

    England "lost" that game. It was in their hands and we were spectators. We didnt "win" it.

    Razor is very lucky the ledger is as "good" as it is.

    Even in our wins we go life and death with everyone.

    We always give the opposition chances don't we? I'd like to see us throttle the life out of an opposition, just so I can believe we still have it in us

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    Victor Matfield made a comment this week about wanting savvyest players on field at end in a tight match.

    I totally agree.

    So who are our savvyest players? A few off the top of my head:

    Codie, [Scooter], Patty T, Jacobson, [RD], [Christie], [BB], [ALB].

    It’s not a pleasant thought.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Victor Matfield made a comment this week about wanting savvyest players on field at end in a tight match.

    I totally agree.

    So who are our savvyest players? A few off the top of my head:

    Codie, [Scooter], Patty T, Jacobson, [RD], [Christie], [BB], [ALB].

    It’s not a pleasant thought.

    Reading that list, I need the definition of savvyest described.

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    Players who’ve lots of experience and might be expected to make good decisions under pressure. The prevalence of square brackets tells you we are at a low ebb.

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    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

    So 2007 again…..

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae It.'s a shame they are not all playing NPC this weekend.

    Yes, because that has always happened in previous years when there has been a break.

    That’s a pretty healthy number going back to play NPC.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Victor Matfield made a comment this week about wanting savvyest players on field at end in a tight match.

    I totally agree.

    So who are our savvyest players? A few off the top of my head:

    Codie, [Scooter], Patty T, Jacobson, [RD], [Christie], [BB], [ALB].

    It’s not a pleasant thought.

    Tangential reply to your post.

    Using RD when referring to Ardie needs to be a bannable offence.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Victor Matfield made a comment this week about wanting savvyest players on field at end in a tight match.

    I totally agree.

    So who are our savvyest players? A few off the top of my head:

    Codie, [Scooter], Patty T, Jacobson, [RD], [Christie], [BB], [ALB].

    It’s not a pleasant thought.

    Reading that list, I need the definition of savvyest described.

    We could start by spelling it properly.

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  • canefanC Online
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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

    So 2007 again…..

    what happened in 2007? 😲

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Victor Matfield made a comment this week about wanting savvyest players on field at end in a tight match.

    I totally agree.

    So who are our savvyest players? A few off the top of my head:

    Codie, [Scooter], Patty T, Jacobson, [RD], [Christie], [BB], [ALB].

    It’s not a pleasant thought.

    Reading that list, I need the definition of savvyest described.

    We could start by spelling it properly.

    Ohhhh... silent e at the end?

    Savvyeste

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

    Victor Matfield made a comment this week about wanting savvyest players on field at end in a tight match.

    I totally agree.

    So who are our savvyest players? A few off the top of my head:

    Codie, [Scooter], Patty T, Jacobson, [RD], [Christie], [BB], [ALB].

    It’s not a pleasant thought.

    Reading that list, I need the definition of savvyest described.

    We could start by spelling it properly.

    Savviest, of course: don’t know what I was thinking.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    replied to ACT Crusader last edited by
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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    So 2007 again…..

    Didn't happen and I wasn't at the Millennium Stadium on 6th October 2007

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    Good analysis from Two Cents rugby and some terrifying statistics pointing to how utterly horse shit our backline has become:

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  • KiwiMurphK Online
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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

    George Ford hit the post with a pen from right in front, and subsequently missed a drop goal on the hooter to win the game for England.

    England "lost" that game. It was in their hands and we were spectators. We didnt "win" it.

    Razor is very lucky the ledger is as "good" as it is.

    Even in our wins we go life and death with everyone.

    To add to this it was George Ford that missed the tackle on Mark Telea - whilst Telea is a tough assignment it was a very poor defensive effort.

    A nightmare last 10 minutes or so for George Ford.

    Add in the fact that Telea had been subbed off the field earlier but only came back on due to Beauden getting a HIA I believe.

    You take it but it was definitely more of an England loss than an AB win

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    ANALYSIS: Scott Robertson oversaw his fifth loss since taking charge of the All Blacks on Sunday, as they went down 29-23 against Argentina in Buenos Aires. The defeat came in Robertson’s 19th match since replacing Ian Foster at the helm of New Zealand’s national men’s rugby team at the start of last year.
    He has now overseen five losses faster than the last four men to be in the hot seat before him – Foster, Sir Steve Hansen, Sir Graham Henry and John Mitchell.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360803932/five-losses-19-tests-how-scott-robertsons-start-compares-past-all-blacks-coaches

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Now I know how Wales must have felt when they went into decline after their golden era of the 1970s. We seem to be getting further and further from the peak as Razor's tenure goes on. At this rate we will likely suffer a QF exit in a couple years time, if indeed we make it out of the group...

    Of course fortunes can change in the space of a game. But we are a rabble right now

    George Ford hit the post with a pen from right in front, and subsequently missed a drop goal on the hooter to win the game for England.

    England "lost" that game. It was in their hands and we were spectators. We didnt "win" it.

    Razor is very lucky the ledger is as "good" as it is.

    Even in our wins we go life and death with everyone.

    To add to this it was George Ford that missed the tackle on Mark Telea - whilst Telea is a tough assignment it was a very poor defensive effort.

    A nightmare last 10 minutes or so for George Ford.

    Add in the fact that Telea had been subbed off the field earlier but only came back on due to Beauden getting a HIA I believe.

    You take it but it was definitely more of an England loss than an AB win

    Beauden Barrett being off the field has resulted in some of our best patches of play over the last couple of years. His YC against the French really gave us a lift.

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