Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****
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@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Other than him looking exactly like a Samurai?
I apologise in advance if it's racist to say that all Samurai look alike.
Missed the point. He is wearing clothing and fighting in a way similar to many SW characters that use hand held weapons. It is only his racial profile that has everyone calling him the 'samurai dude' and therefore declaring that his character sucks.
When has a character ever taken on stormtroopers armed with some kind of stick? Unless the weapon is a lightsaber, the whole idea is shit.
So he looks exactly like a Samurai, is blind, force sensitive and uses a farking stick as a weapon. That equals shit.
Rey?
Slam dunk of a comment there Kirwan ( would insert a good meme if I knew how to on the fern....)
Nerd alert time again but apparently the Emperors Royal guards ( guys in red who stand around looking menacing but in truth don't do shit ) use force pikes, ie sticks with lasers on the end, something like the magnaguards used in Revenge of the Sith ( the droids that hung around General Greivous ).
Surely it would be more effective if this bloke used one of those ?
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@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I'll wait and see if the character is any good in the movie before passing judgement, it's only a trailer.
I do like the fact they have cast someone who looks Japanese when Darth Vader has been stomping around in a samurai helmet all this time.
I'm picking his character to be a potential "youngling" who escaped order 66, was raised somewhere safe, has force potential but isn't a jedi as such ? perhaps D Vaders only blinded him and didn't kill him ?
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I'll wait and see if the character is any good in the movie before passing judgement, it's only a trailer.
I do like the fact they have cast someone who looks Japanese when Darth Vader has been stomping around in a samurai helmet all this time.
I'm picking his character to be a potential "youngling" who escaped order 66, was raised somewhere safe, has force potential but isn't a jedi as such ? perhaps D Vaders only blinded him and didn't kill him ?
Or he was a Jedi and was only maimed by Order 66? It's going to be very interesting to see how much they reference the Prequels and The Clones Wars cartoon (which is canon).
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@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
I'll wait and see if the character is any good in the movie before passing judgement, it's only a trailer.
I do like the fact they have cast someone who looks Japanese when Darth Vader has been stomping around in a samurai helmet all this time.
I'm picking his character to be a potential "youngling" who escaped order 66, was raised somewhere safe, has force potential but isn't a jedi as such ? perhaps D Vaders only blinded him and didn't kill him ?
Or he was a Jedi and was only maimed by Order 66? It's going to be very interesting to see how much they reference the Prequels and The Clones Wars cartoon (which is canon).
True, if he's 40 odd then your theory holds true.
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@Crucial said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Umm yeah.
I'm only carrying the argument on because I asked a simple question and you can't concede that fact that you are calling him 'Samurai guy' because he looks asian.
I don't see anything about him that jars with the SW Universe at all. There are plenty of 'force sensitive' characters around (Leia and Maz Kanata as examples), the costume style fits in and using a stick looks to make sense in that he can look non threatening to his advantage.We've seen that Stormtroopers are just humanoids in armour that serves little purpose. Plenty of weak points in those outfits to exploit. What's the problem with using a stick then?
FFS, I'm calling him that because in the few scenes we see him he looks like a fucking Samurai. Yes him being Asian is a factor (last time I checked the Samurai were from Japan), but him being Asian is not the main reason for labelling him a Samurai. It's his clothes, weapon and apparent fighting style. IMHO he sucks balls and the fact that he's a force-sensitive blind guy makes him even more naff.
Obviously, you think a guy who is kind of like Daredevil but with one stick instead of two (just like those awesome Ewoks) is really really cool. I respectfully disagree and quite frankly don't give a shit what you think.
Kirwan: Crap comparison. Rey is a desert scavenger who can barely afford to eat. When Han offered her a blaster she didn't say "no, I prefer my stick", she gleefully started blowing away Storm Troopers. I don't think she's going to forego the lightsaber in favour of stick anytime soon either.
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@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Might be hard to use a blaster when you are blind
As opposed to beating the shit out of a platoon of Storm Troopers with a stick?
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Now you're just getting silly.
![alt text] http://img3.looper.com/img/gallery/rogue-one-characters-that-will-have-more-meaning-than-we-realized/chirrut-imwe.jpg (image url)Those weapons don't even resemble what Samurai dude is carrying. Two of them are electrified ffs. One is of a ST throwing away his primary weapon to make things interesting with Finn. Stupid comparisons.
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Of course I'm being stupid, we are arguing about a guy looking too japanese in a movie series littered with asian influences.
The scene that bothers you needs to be judged when it's finished. It's not uncommon for scenes in trailers to be missing special effects, so for all you know it could have lightening on the stick.
I agree that they need to address why they were unable to shoot him from point blank though.
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@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Of course I'm being stupid, we are arguing about a guy looking too japanese in a movie series littered with asian influences.
The scene that bothers you needs to be judged when it's finished. It's not uncommon for scenes in trailers to be missing special effects, so for all you know it could have lightening on the stick.
I agree that they need to address why they were unable to shoot him from point blank though.
Christ on a bike, my beef is not that he looks too Japanese. I think I made it quite clear that I don't like the concept of him beating up on squads of Storm Troopers armed only with a stick. You also appear to be more than a tad sceptical about this.
If it transpires that his stick is some kind of Swiss army weapon equipped with blasters and cannons then I will take back my criticisms.
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Ha ha. I take it back. He is no Samurai at all.
Henceforth I will refer to him as Monkey Magic dude.
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@Kirwan said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Of course I'm being stupid, we are arguing about a guy looking too japanese in a movie series littered with asian influences.
The scene that bothers you needs to be judged when it's finished. It's not uncommon for scenes in trailers to be missing special effects, so for all you know it could have lightening on the stick.
I agree that they need to address why they were unable to shoot him from point blank though.
Stormtroopers aren't exactly well recognised for their shooting skills.
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@MN5 said in Star Wars VII ****contains spoilers****:
Rancid you're generally a pretty level headed ferner and I love your work but for some reason you get a bit pissy about Star Wars ? I remember you and M4L having a real scrap about female leads in Star Wars ?
I plead guilty to being rather passionate about Star Wars which (probably like you) was an important part of my childhood and didn't include blind guys fighting with sticks. But ultimately I'm just passionately defending my position against the stupid idiots who dare to question my pitiful fanboi rants.
To be fair, iirc the M4L scrap was more about me losing my shit after he called me Greenback's sidekick. Dildo in the mouth piston wristed gibbon.
