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All Blacks v Springboks I

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  • allblacksfan2A allblacksfan2

    Wow that was such an exciting game. That last 20 mins was edge of the seat stuff, and I let out a few yells that woke the dog. I was interested to see how Christie, Ioane, BB and Proctor went given the flak they tend to get on here...and they all played well. Most of Christie's passes were quick and straight and he both attacked and defended strongly. Pity about Narawa, I hope he's ok.

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    @allblackfan2 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

    Wow that was such an exciting game. That last 20 mins was edge of the seat stuff, and I let out a few yells that woke the dog. I was interested to see how Christie, Ioane, BB and Proctor went given the flak they tend to get on here...and they all played well. Most of Christie's passes were quick and straight and he both attacked and defended strongly. Pity about Narawa, I hope he's ok.

    Most of Christie’s passes were quick and straight? Can I have some of what you’re on?

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

      Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
      We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

      We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

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      @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

      @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

      Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
      We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

      We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

      This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

      He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

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      • allblacksfan2A allblacksfan2

        Wow that was such an exciting game. That last 20 mins was edge of the seat stuff, and I let out a few yells that woke the dog. I was interested to see how Christie, Ioane, BB and Proctor went given the flak they tend to get on here...and they all played well. Most of Christie's passes were quick and straight and he both attacked and defended strongly. Pity about Narawa, I hope he's ok.

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        @allblackfan2 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

        Most of Christie's passes were quick and straight

        😆

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        • JetJ Jet

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
          We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

          We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

          This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

          He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

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          @Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

          Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
          We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

          We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

          This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

          He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

          He doesn't have a win at Eden Park

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          • JetJ Jet

            @allblackfan2 said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

            Wow that was such an exciting game. That last 20 mins was edge of the seat stuff, and I let out a few yells that woke the dog. I was interested to see how Christie, Ioane, BB and Proctor went given the flak they tend to get on here...and they all played well. Most of Christie's passes were quick and straight and he both attacked and defended strongly. Pity about Narawa, I hope he's ok.

            Rancid bait.

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            @Jet 'bait' as in baiting? Not at all, an honest opinion albeit one that doesnt align with some others.

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @MajorRage said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              How the fuck is that not a YC?

              Because it was bullshit?

              At least the TMO invented a high tackle to save face.

              Comedy.

              Shoulder to the head

              YC and off field review

              Mitigation as attacker was falling in the tackle

              Stays YC

              Been ruled that way for years

              Not tonight

              I understand your logic, but I really don’t like the typical interpretation. If an attacker runs head first into a static member of the opposition it’s not even really a tackle, let alone a dangerous one.

              IMO the attacker ought to take some responsibility if he charges ahead recklessly.

              So me a penalty feels appropriate in that specific instance.

              Got no problem with your interpretation and logic.

              But it's refereed so inconsistently - more often than not the other way - that it gets very frustrating when one minute it's an off-field review and the next minute it's a penalty only.

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              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @MajorRage said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

              How the fuck is that not a YC?

              Because it was bullshit?

              At least the TMO invented a high tackle to save face.

              Comedy.

              Shoulder to the head

              YC and off field review

              Mitigation as attacker was falling in the tackle

              Stays YC

              Been ruled that way for years

              Not tonight

              I understand your logic, but I really don’t like the typical interpretation. If an attacker runs head first into a static member of the opposition it’s not even really a tackle, let alone a dangerous one.

              IMO the attacker ought to take some responsibility if he charges ahead recklessly.

              So me a penalty feels appropriate in that specific instance.

              Got no problem with your interpretation and logic.

              But it's refereed so inconsistently - more often than not the other way - that it gets very frustrating when one minute it's an off-field review and the next minute it's a penalty only.

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              • sparkyS sparky

                Willie Le Roux gifted the ABs that first try and they were good enough to hold on despite some moments of poor rugby from the Men in Black.

                Positives:

                The intensity of the ruck work.
                The forward defensive effort.
                The crowd were ace.
                We won.

                Work ons:

                We need a better option at 11, at 13 and arguably at 15 too.
                Set piece once the replacements come on.
                The kicking.

                Sweet to win one against the Boks after losing the last four against the Old Foe. Lots of work needed ahead of the Wellington game and the Bledisloe.

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                @sparky Billy Proctor hasn’t found his feet. Still looking to play super rugby at test level. Doesn’t drop the ball as much as Reiko which is a plus but needs to improve his decisions.

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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                  Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
                  We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

                  We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

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                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                  @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                  Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
                  We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

                  We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

                  Just look at what happened in 2011, it could easily happen again.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    @Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
                    We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

                    We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

                    This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

                    He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

                    He doesn't have a win at Eden Park

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    @Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                    Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
                    We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

                    We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

                    This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

                    He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

                    He doesn't have a win at Eden Park

                    He has 2 World Cup wins and a Lions Series.

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                    • JetJ Jet

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
                      We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

                      We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

                      This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

                      He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

                      He doesn't have a win at Eden Park

                      He has 2 World Cup wins and a Lions Series.

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                      @Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      @kidcalder said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                      Christie is there because of injuries, hopefully 1 or 2 will be back soon enough -otherwise be nice to see what Preston can do starting.
                      We really need to move on from BB at 10 Give Dmac the reins and Love to the bench

                      We definitely need to start giving Love more game time. We could easily have an injury crisis at 10 like we have at 9. He needs experience and they need to start giving him some.

                      This is what Rassie is doing, for better or worse.

                      He has 3 or 4 players in every position with 30 caps each come World Cup time.

                      He doesn't have a win at Eden Park

                      He has 2 World Cup wins and a Lions Series.

                      Sweet. His team shat the bed tonight presented with a golden opportunity. He has to own that.

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                        The problem is still the paucity of ideas or punch from the backline and the conservative selections. Love should have been given a shot in the second Argentinan test, but Robertson (worried about losing games primarily) appears to be shying away from succession planning. I wonder, too, whether they need to move JB out one to 13 and have Tupea starting at 12. It will be interesting to see whether they use Leicester F in the Wellington test - perhaps off the bench, with Jordan at 14, Love at 15 and Caleb Clarke at 11.

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                        • K kev

                          @Old-Samurai-Jack there was one moment where we had created space for the kick, he ran from base with lots of room and sliced it off the side of his boot. Lineout on 22 after a sustained period on D. Execution in those moments says a lot about players. Jus not good enough.

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                          @kev said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                          @Old-Samurai-Jack there was one moment where we had created space for the kick, he ran from base with lots of room and sliced it off the side of his boot. Lineout on 22 after a sustained period on D. Execution in those moments says a lot about players. Jus not good enough.

                          It looked for all money that he simply panicked and was trying to clear as if he was under pressure.

                          Everything Christie does suggests he has no concept of the state of play. Hence that kick, delaying at rucks when we need fast ball, flapping his arms at the ref when he needs to concentrate on clearing the ball, etc.

                          If effort was what counted, I'd be a centurion. Alas my career was thwarted by execution.

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                          • His BobnessH His Bobness

                            The problem is still the paucity of ideas or punch from the backline and the conservative selections. Love should have been given a shot in the second Argentinan test, but Robertson (worried about losing games primarily) appears to be shying away from succession planning. I wonder, too, whether they need to move JB out one to 13 and have Tupea starting at 12. It will be interesting to see whether they use Leicester F in the Wellington test - perhaps off the bench, with Jordan at 14, Love at 15 and Caleb Clarke at 11.

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                            @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                            The problem is still the paucity of ideas or punch from the backline and the conservative selections. Love should have been given a shot in the second Argentinan test, but Robertson (worried about losing games primarily) appears to be shying away from succession planning. I wonder, too, whether they need to move JB out one to 13 and have Tupea starting at 12. It will be interesting to see whether they use Leicester F in the Wellington test - perhaps off the bench, with Jordan at 14, Love at 15 and Caleb Clarke at 11.

                            The win will probably see Razor make no non-injury enforced changes

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                              The problem is still the paucity of ideas or punch from the backline and the conservative selections. Love should have been given a shot in the second Argentinan test, but Robertson (worried about losing games primarily) appears to be shying away from succession planning. I wonder, too, whether they need to move JB out one to 13 and have Tupea starting at 12. It will be interesting to see whether they use Leicester F in the Wellington test - perhaps off the bench, with Jordan at 14, Love at 15 and Caleb Clarke at 11.

                              The win will probably see Razor make no non-injury enforced changes

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                              @canefan I’d give Rieko a rest

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                Great planned move for WJ’s try but that throw definitely drifted forward at the end

                                SA went up to contest so shouldn’t that have been called back and throw to SA?

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                                @MiketheSnow
                                Given everything else he missed it all evened out?

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                                  Didn't have any money on the Boks 🙂

                                  Went out and watched it in the pub with a full cooked breakfast at half time

                                  Wonderful

                                  Tough, tough contest with both teams giving their all

                                  Exciting back and forth with the ABs unable / unwilling to give themselves daylight (should have taken the 3 to take them two scores ahead. Got the try but at that stage you need to create almost guaranteed breathing space)

                                  Yes the weather didn't help but even if it was dry both sides were looking to put pressure on the catcher to create opportunities for themselves

                                  We're not talking about Wales v Japan here

                                  We were watching the two best sides in the world

                                  More ambition from a three legged terrier trying to fuck an Alsatian

                                  I expected better

                                  The officiating for both sides was inconsistent and poor

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                                  • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                    @canefan I’d give Rieko a rest

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                                    @His-Bobness said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                    @canefan I’d give Rieko a rest

                                    Yep, a long one !!

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                                    • O Old Alleynians

                                      @MiketheSnow
                                      Given everything else he missed it all evened out?

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                                      @Old-Alleynians said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                      @MiketheSnow
                                      Given everything else he missed it all evened out?

                                      Overall maybe

                                      Key decisions favoured the ABs IMHO

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                                        We won the Eden Park battle.
                                        The next test times requires development of the team.
                                        I am sick to death of the reluctance to try new players.
                                        When Razor actually brings in high potential players - Parker, Sititi, Holland, they can actually work.

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                                        • K kev

                                          @sparky Billy Proctor hasn’t found his feet. Still looking to play super rugby at test level. Doesn’t drop the ball as much as Reiko which is a plus but needs to improve his decisions.

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                                          @kev said in All Blacks v Springboks I:

                                          @sparky Billy Proctor hasn’t found his feet. Still looking to play super rugby at test level. Doesn’t drop the ball as much as Reiko which is a plus but needs to improve his decisions.

                                          Jordan was calling for the ball on the wing. It was the execution that was slightly off in this case. If Proctor nailed that kick and Jordan went the length of the field we’ll all be singing a different tune.

                                          Proctor was completely fine for most of that test. He did a great job shutting down his much more experienced opposites but let’s just ignore that. Until that cross kick I don’t think he put a foot wrong all night. Did everything asked of him , yeah the kick was probably not the right call but fk me, he’ll learn from that. This is literally his 5th test. 🤦‍♂️ His first kick of the game also lead to our first try, so maybe give these young players time to find their feet.

                                          If we dropped players for one bad kick / decision that eventually lead to a try, Beauden, Jordie etc would have been dropped ages ago.

                                          Laughable that you say we should move Jordie to 13 when he’s been one of the most headless backs for us this year.

                                          Just keep the combinations growing. Chopping and changing won’t fix anything.

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