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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

    Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

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      Newell seemed to get schooled at scrum time by Ox?

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      @dman68 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      Newell seemed to get schooled at scrum time by Ox?

      Could see Lomax and Williams starting. Lomax is well used to Nche, and EDG better equipped to cope with Louw, especially with McAlister beside him.

      Imagine Ratima back in 23. Perhaps Clarke to 11 and Ioane to 14?

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

        Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

        I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

        Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

        https://all.rugby/player/jordie-barrett
        Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
        Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 51% )
        Center : 77 times ( Inside Centre 38%, Outside Centre 4% )
        Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 6%, Left Wing 1% )
        Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )

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            I hope Rieko is dropped.

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              Boks will have Jasper Wiese back, so Van Straden to bench. Lood de Jager will start. Can imagine a new fullback to start, perhaps Fassi or Willemse.
              Faf will be in 23. Tough on Nortje, but I think Snyman will be restored to bench. My instinct is 6-2. Could make a case for SFM to start and Pollard to be closer.

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                Something like:

                1. De Groot
                2. Taukei'aho
                3. Newell
                4. Vaa'i
                5. S. Barrett (c)
                6. Parker
                7. A. Savea
                8. Sititi
                9. Ratima
                10. D Mac
                11. C. Clarke
                12. J. Barrett
                13. B. Proctor
                14. Jordan
                15. Love

                1. McAlister
                2. T. Williams
                3. Lomax
                4. Holland
                5. Lakai
                6. Christie
                7. B. Barrett
                8. L. Fainga'anuku
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                • FrankF Frank

                  I hope Rieko is dropped.

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                  @Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  I hope Rieko is dropped.

                  Strong agreement.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    @booboo said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                    @Canes4life any changes will be just covering for injury so not delving too deep into speculative selecting.

                    I think Dmac starting at 15 would be stronger. But agree with giving Love some game time.

                    I do prefer Jacobsen on bench to Kirifi. But would prefer another big body there, which by default is Finau.

                    (FYI it's McAlister.)

                    How does Rassie react?

                    Etzebeth and Snyman in. Does he have any other options? The bench last night was uninspiring by Saffa standards.

                    Surely after Finau’s dogshite performances in the NPC and ABs this year puts him firmly out of contention

                    Yep a big no to Finau. It’s either Lakai or Jacobson for me.

                    LOL Fuck off.

                    Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

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                    LOL Fuck off.

                    Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                    Are you Finau’s mother?

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                      Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

                      https://all.rugby/player/jordie-barrett
                      Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
                      Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 51% )
                      Center : 77 times ( Inside Centre 38%, Outside Centre 4% )
                      Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 6%, Left Wing 1% )
                      Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                      I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                      Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

                      https://all.rugby/player/jordie-barrett
                      Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
                      Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 51% )
                      Center : 77 times ( Inside Centre 38%, Outside Centre 4% )
                      Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 6%, Left Wing 1% )
                      Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )

                      So about eight ties in ~200 games. Presumably none of them for the All Blacks. Any of them recently for the Canes?

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                        Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

                        https://all.rugby/player/jordie-barrett
                        Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
                        Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 51% )
                        Center : 77 times ( Inside Centre 38%, Outside Centre 4% )
                        Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 6%, Left Wing 1% )
                        Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )

                        So about eight ties in ~200 games. Presumably none of them for the All Blacks. Any of them recently for the Canes?

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                        I quite like changing to QT 12 JB 13 mid game.

                        Refresh my memory of the times Jordie has played 13.

                        https://all.rugby/player/jordie-barrett
                        Occupied positions by Jordie on start team :
                        Fullback : 91 times ( Fullback 51% )
                        Center : 77 times ( Inside Centre 38%, Outside Centre 4% )
                        Winger : 11 times ( Right Wing 6%, Left Wing 1% )
                        Fly-Half : 1 times ( Fly-Half 1% )

                        So about eight ties in ~200 games. Presumably none of them for the All Blacks. Any of them recently for the Canes?

                        Fullback counts as 13. Just ask Cullen.

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                          LOL Fuck off.

                          Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                          Are you Finau’s mother?

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                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          LOL Fuck off.

                          Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                          Are you Finau’s mother?

                          Must be with that response.

                          Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

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                            Bok team announced 7 p.m. NZT today.

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              LOL Fuck off.

                              Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                              Are you Finau’s mother?

                              Must be with that response.

                              Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                              LOL Fuck off.

                              Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                              Are you Finau’s mother?

                              Must be with that response.

                              Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                              Parker looks better than him already.

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                              • JetJ Jet

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                LOL Fuck off.

                                Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                Are you Finau’s mother?

                                Must be with that response.

                                Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                Parker looks better than him already.

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                                @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                LOL Fuck off.

                                Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                Are you Finau’s mother?

                                Must be with that response.

                                Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                Parker looks better than him already.

                                @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                LOL Fuck off.

                                Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                Are you Finau’s mother?

                                Must be with that response.

                                Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                Parker looks better than him already.

                                If the chiefs are fully fit, Finau doesn’t even start

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                                  Pretty sure Lakai has a mother or two on here as well...

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                                  • JetJ Jet

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                    LOL Fuck off.

                                    Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                    Are you Finau’s mother?

                                    Must be with that response.

                                    Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                    Parker looks better than him already.

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                                    @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                    LOL Fuck off.

                                    Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                    Are you Finau’s mother?

                                    Must be with that response.

                                    Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                    Parker looks better than him already.

                                    Yep, Parker will be the find of the season for the ABs, balances that loose forward trio out really nicely.

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                                    • JetJ Jet

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      LOL Fuck off.

                                      Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                      Are you Finau’s mother?

                                      Must be with that response.

                                      Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                      Parker looks better than him already.

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                                      @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      LOL Fuck off.

                                      Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                      Are you Finau’s mother?

                                      Must be with that response.

                                      Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                      Parker looks better than him already.

                                      No argument, but the dribbling bullshit that he's been garbage from the same bloke pumping for yet another midget Canes forward is a joke.

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                                        I will eat my pōtae if Beauden Barrett doesn’t start at 10. I fully expect him to be at 10.

                                        10-12-13 to remain the same.

                                        With Narawa out and I think Reece not suiting the Springbok tactics, they don’t have another natural right winger other than Jordan. Ioane has played on the right for the ABs, but that is some time ago. From what I saw of the Auckland game yesterday, Clarke seemed to come through okay, so could be in contention - unless they save him for the Aussies.

                                        I’d much prefer Will at fullback and they fit someone else on to the right wing.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          LOL Fuck off.

                                          Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                          Are you Finau’s mother?

                                          Must be with that response.

                                          Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                          Parker looks better than him already.

                                          No argument, but the dribbling bullshit that he's been garbage from the same bloke pumping for yet another midget Canes forward is a joke.

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                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          LOL Fuck off.

                                          Lakai has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey. At least Finau has been busy doing the hard work in his limited opportunities. His cleans are excellent and his carries in close make ground. He's worth persisting with IMO.

                                          Are you Finau’s mother?

                                          Must be with that response.

                                          Finau has been garbage lately, the only time he looks good is when he’s picking on small 10s. Can’t even make his tackles at NPC and was made to look very average the other week against Southland.

                                          Parker looks better than him already.

                                          No argument, but the dribbling bullshit that he's been garbage from the same bloke pumping for yet another midget Canes forward is a joke.

                                          Somone's testy.

                                          I haven't been pumping Lakai, I've just suggested him or Jacobson will be better bench options than Kirifi because they can cover more positions and they are both more suited to the test environment because of their larger frames.

                                          Lol Finau has been average, go and watch his performance against Southland in the Shield game the other week. All Blacks should dominate at NPC level and standout. Finau stood out for the wrong reasons, whereas Lakai picked up the player of the match against Waikato in one of only two appearances this season.

                                          How is Peter Lakai a midget for a 7? 1.86m and 109kg isn't exactly small. McCaw was 1.86m and 108kg so pretty much the same size and he wasn't half bad. Lakai is also 6kg heavier than both Kirifi and Savea who are 103kg, which goes back to my initial point about him being more suited to test level footy.

                                          Your argument that Lakai "has literally no body of work deserving of an All Blacks jersey" is just bullshit. At the age of 22 he's already won two NPC titles, he's been the most consistent Canes forward for the last two seasons and he's not even close to reaching his ceiling. Not surprising that Razor came out and said he's a big part of their future plans.

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