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    @Bovidae the other thought I had was Rieko might be moving to 13, hence Fainga’anuku being released.

    Otherwise Leroy Carter would have made more sense to be released?

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

    This applies to restarts too

    Take a look at the second half restart

    Just awful. Was deepish but it was the opposite of hanging - was flat - allowing the boks to catch it with ease and space to run forward leading to an easy exit.

    there was a bomb BB put up i think off a lineout that didn't even make the advantage line and we STILL didn't recover

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    Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
    McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

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    I like the BB - DMac 10/15 combo, it has had success in the past, and it's worked much better than the Mo'unga - BB combo. Having a genuine playmaker at the back can take some heat off BB trying to create everything as well.

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    My assumption is our line up will be

    1. Ethan De Groot
    2. Samisoni T
    3. Fletcher Newall
    4. Scott Barrett
    5. Tupou Vaii
    6. Simon Parker
    7. Ardie Savea
    8. Wallace Sitti
    9. Finley Christie
    10. Beauden Barrett
    11. Caleb Clarke
    12. Jordie Barrett
    13. Billy Proctor
    14. Reiko Ioane
    15. Will Jordan
    16. Brodie M
    17. Tamaiti Williams
    18. Tyrel Lomax
    19. Fabian Holland
    20. Luke Jacobson
    21. Noah Hotham
    22. Damian Mckenzie
    23. Quinn Tupea
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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
    McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

    Encouraging.
    Showing they are adapting and learning.
    DMac was far better than Jordan last week.
    Suggests Clarke at 11.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
    McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

    I heard something similar on the radio , same starting back 3 as that with reiko out of the 23 and love on the bench

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    @handa457 Won't be far away.

    Three main questions:

    (i) Which props start and which are on the bench. They may switch this around to create better matches for our guys.

    (ii) Who is available at halfback and who plays where - Christie, Ratima, Hotham and Preston all somewhat in contention. I'm inclined to think Christie will be there - benched if Ratima is available, starting if paired with either Hotham or Preston.

    (iii) How they configure the back three (and the bench cover).

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    Liam Napier hinting that Leroy Carter could be in the 23 and usually his oil is impeccable but the actual article seems quite speculative by his standards.

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    @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @handa457 Won't be far away.

    Three main questions:

    (i) Which props start and which are on the bench. They may switch this around to create better matches for our guys.

    (ii) Who is available at halfback and who plays where - Christie, Ratima, Hotham and Preston all somewhat in contention. I'm inclined to think Christie will be there - benched if Ratima is available, starting if paired with either Hotham or Preston.

    (iii) How they configure the back three (and the bench cover).

    Boks are playing a 6' 4" LH off the bench. I like the sound of Williams, McAlister and Newell on our bench. Plenty of cohesion.

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    @KiwiMurph His team: 15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Will Jordan, 13. Billy Proctor, 12. Jordie Barrett, 11. Leroy Carter/Caleb Clarke, 10. Beauden Barrett, 9. Noah Hotham, 8. Wallace Sititi, 7 .Ardie Savea, 6. Simon Parker, 5. Tupou Vaa’i, 4. Scott Barrett (c), 3. Tyrel Lomax, 2. Samisoni Taukei’aho, 1. Ethan de Groot. Replacements: 16. Brodie McAlister, 17. Tamaiti Williams, 18. Fletcher Newell, 19. Fabian Holland, 20. Du’Plessis Kirifi, 21. Finlay Christie, 22. Ruben Love, 23. Quinn Tupaea.

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    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    I like the BB - DMac 10/15 combo, it has had success in the past, and it's worked much better than the Mo'unga - BB combo. Having a genuine playmaker at the back can take some heat off BB trying to create everything as well.

    It was one of the interesting things about that failed '2 playmaker' time for me: DM + either was okay, BB + Mo'unga was godawful.
    Not advocating for it, because as I'm sure most are aware by now I think BB should just get the arse, but it was interesting how one guy could make it work whoever he was paired with, and the other two couldn't manage it together.

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    @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
    McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

    Who covers 12?

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    @Frank If bench Christie, Tupaea, Rieko?

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    I know Rieko has been away this week due to the death of his grandmother.

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    Carter on bench would be a reasonable swap for Rieko. Love at Caketin also would appeal to some, naming no names.

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    Is Jacobson a roughy for a bench spot? Has he actually made it on to field for ABs so far this year?

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @KiwiMurph His team: 15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Will Jordan, 13. Billy Proctor, 12. Jordie Barrett, 11. Leroy Carter/Caleb Clarke, 10. Beauden Barrett, 9. Noah Hotham, 8. Wallace Sititi, 7 .Ardie Savea, 6. Simon Parker, 5. Tupou Vaa’i, 4. Scott Barrett (c), 3. Tyrel Lomax, 2. Samisoni Taukei’aho, 1. Ethan de Groot. Replacements: 16. Brodie McAlister, 17. Tamaiti Williams, 18. Fletcher Newell, 19. Fabian Holland, 20. Du’Plessis Kirifi, 21. Finlay Christie, 22. Ruben Love, 23. Quinn Tupaea.

    Same backline I was told and yes was told Ruben Love will get his spot off the bench at home in Wellington. Left wing and halfback was undecided when I had the word given to me but still haven’t had that confirmation hence why I haven’t posted.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    Is Jacobson a roughy for a bench spot? Has he actually made it on to field for ABs so far this year?

    He hasn't.

    I don't think he actually adds a lot from the bench. If he's in the 23, I'd rather he was starting.

    In saying that, I think he's a better bench option than Kirifi. Would prefer a Lakai or even a Finau over both of them, probably.

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    @Landers92 the Myth of Dmac social media page posted a similar side

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