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All Blacks vs Springboks II

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  • NepiaN Nepia

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Thought he played really well in SR. Built nicely throughout the season, signed with NZR, positive media....then poof, nowhere to be seen.

    Maybe the coaches are just that spiteful, Sotutu can't get a run because of his phone etiquette, and Fakatava turned Razor down when he tried to woo him to the Crusaders. 🎣

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @game_film said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

    @Bones I can’t figure this one out. Would love for someone to educate me on what he’s missing, or does he just play for the wrong team.

    Thought he played really well in SR. Built nicely throughout the season, signed with NZR, positive media....then poof, nowhere to be seen.

    Maybe the coaches are just that spiteful, Sotutu can't get a run because of his phone etiquette, and Fakatava turned Razor down when he tried to woo him to the Crusaders. 🎣

    Don't forget Dalton: one little headbutt and you're on the outer?

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

      and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

      This applies to restarts too

      Take a look at the second half restart

      Just awful. Was deepish but it was the opposite of hanging - was flat - allowing the boks to catch it with ease and space to run forward leading to an easy exit.

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        Reece released to Southland. Hard to see him playing for the All Blacks again. Fainga’anuku released too

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        • frugbyF frugby

          Reece released to Southland. Hard to see him playing for the All Blacks again. Fainga’anuku released too

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          @frugby said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

          Reece released to Southland. Hard to see him playing for the All Blacks again. Fainga’anuku released too

          Sam Darry also

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            Leicester on the bench for Ta$man so not going to be involved in test 2

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              Assuming Jordan at fullback is a certainty, this points to Rieko moving to the right wing.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                Assuming Jordan at fullback is a certainty, this points to Rieko moving to the right wing.

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                @Bovidae the other thought I had was Rieko might be moving to 13, hence Fainga’anuku being released.

                Otherwise Leroy Carter would have made more sense to be released?

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

                  This applies to restarts too

                  Take a look at the second half restart

                  Just awful. Was deepish but it was the opposite of hanging - was flat - allowing the boks to catch it with ease and space to run forward leading to an easy exit.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                  and that's our problem, not distance, but height. We kick it the required distance, but nowhere near high enough to get our chasers to arrive. So it's an uncontested catch and a simple 7-10m return.

                  This applies to restarts too

                  Take a look at the second half restart

                  Just awful. Was deepish but it was the opposite of hanging - was flat - allowing the boks to catch it with ease and space to run forward leading to an easy exit.

                  there was a bomb BB put up i think off a lineout that didn't even make the advantage line and we STILL didn't recover

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                    Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                    McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

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                      I like the BB - DMac 10/15 combo, it has had success in the past, and it's worked much better than the Mo'unga - BB combo. Having a genuine playmaker at the back can take some heat off BB trying to create everything as well.

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                        My assumption is our line up will be

                        1. Ethan De Groot
                        2. Samisoni T
                        3. Fletcher Newall
                        4. Scott Barrett
                        5. Tupou Vaii
                        6. Simon Parker
                        7. Ardie Savea
                        8. Wallace Sitti
                        9. Finley Christie
                        10. Beauden Barrett
                        11. Caleb Clarke
                        12. Jordie Barrett
                        13. Billy Proctor
                        14. Reiko Ioane
                        15. Will Jordan
                        16. Brodie M
                        17. Tamaiti Williams
                        18. Tyrel Lomax
                        19. Fabian Holland
                        20. Luke Jacobson
                        21. Noah Hotham
                        22. Damian Mckenzie
                        23. Quinn Tupea
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                        • G george33

                          Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                          McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

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                          @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                          Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                          McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

                          Encouraging.
                          Showing they are adapting and learning.
                          DMac was far better than Jordan last week.
                          Suggests Clarke at 11.

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                            Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                            McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

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                            @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                            Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                            McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

                            I heard something similar on the radio , same starting back 3 as that with reiko out of the 23 and love on the bench

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                              My assumption is our line up will be

                              1. Ethan De Groot
                              2. Samisoni T
                              3. Fletcher Newall
                              4. Scott Barrett
                              5. Tupou Vaii
                              6. Simon Parker
                              7. Ardie Savea
                              8. Wallace Sitti
                              9. Finley Christie
                              10. Beauden Barrett
                              11. Caleb Clarke
                              12. Jordie Barrett
                              13. Billy Proctor
                              14. Reiko Ioane
                              15. Will Jordan
                              16. Brodie M
                              17. Tamaiti Williams
                              18. Tyrel Lomax
                              19. Fabian Holland
                              20. Luke Jacobson
                              21. Noah Hotham
                              22. Damian Mckenzie
                              23. Quinn Tupea
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                              Chris B.
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                              @handa457 Won't be far away.

                              Three main questions:

                              (i) Which props start and which are on the bench. They may switch this around to create better matches for our guys.

                              (ii) Who is available at halfback and who plays where - Christie, Ratima, Hotham and Preston all somewhat in contention. I'm inclined to think Christie will be there - benched if Ratima is available, starting if paired with either Hotham or Preston.

                              (iii) How they configure the back three (and the bench cover).

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                                Liam Napier hinting that Leroy Carter could be in the 23 and usually his oil is impeccable but the actual article seems quite speculative by his standards.

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @handa457 Won't be far away.

                                  Three main questions:

                                  (i) Which props start and which are on the bench. They may switch this around to create better matches for our guys.

                                  (ii) Who is available at halfback and who plays where - Christie, Ratima, Hotham and Preston all somewhat in contention. I'm inclined to think Christie will be there - benched if Ratima is available, starting if paired with either Hotham or Preston.

                                  (iii) How they configure the back three (and the bench cover).

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                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                  @handa457 Won't be far away.

                                  Three main questions:

                                  (i) Which props start and which are on the bench. They may switch this around to create better matches for our guys.

                                  (ii) Who is available at halfback and who plays where - Christie, Ratima, Hotham and Preston all somewhat in contention. I'm inclined to think Christie will be there - benched if Ratima is available, starting if paired with either Hotham or Preston.

                                  (iii) How they configure the back three (and the bench cover).

                                  Boks are playing a 6' 4" LH off the bench. I like the sound of Williams, McAlister and Newell on our bench. Plenty of cohesion.

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    Liam Napier hinting that Leroy Carter could be in the 23 and usually his oil is impeccable but the actual article seems quite speculative by his standards.

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                                    @KiwiMurph His team: 15. Damian McKenzie, 14. Will Jordan, 13. Billy Proctor, 12. Jordie Barrett, 11. Leroy Carter/Caleb Clarke, 10. Beauden Barrett, 9. Noah Hotham, 8. Wallace Sititi, 7 .Ardie Savea, 6. Simon Parker, 5. Tupou Vaa’i, 4. Scott Barrett (c), 3. Tyrel Lomax, 2. Samisoni Taukei’aho, 1. Ethan de Groot. Replacements: 16. Brodie McAlister, 17. Tamaiti Williams, 18. Fletcher Newell, 19. Fabian Holland, 20. Du’Plessis Kirifi, 21. Finlay Christie, 22. Ruben Love, 23. Quinn Tupaea.

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                                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                      I like the BB - DMac 10/15 combo, it has had success in the past, and it's worked much better than the Mo'unga - BB combo. Having a genuine playmaker at the back can take some heat off BB trying to create everything as well.

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                                      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                      I like the BB - DMac 10/15 combo, it has had success in the past, and it's worked much better than the Mo'unga - BB combo. Having a genuine playmaker at the back can take some heat off BB trying to create everything as well.

                                      It was one of the interesting things about that failed '2 playmaker' time for me: DM + either was okay, BB + Mo'unga was godawful.
                                      Not advocating for it, because as I'm sure most are aware by now I think BB should just get the arse, but it was interesting how one guy could make it work whoever he was paired with, and the other two couldn't manage it together.

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                                      • G george33

                                        Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                                        McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

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                                        @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                        Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                                        McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

                                        Who covers 12?

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                                          @george33 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:

                                          Reiko on bench and Carter , Jordan wings
                                          McKenzie 15 and apparently Christie is benched

                                          Who covers 12?

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                                          pakman
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                                          #159

                                          @Frank If bench Christie, Tupaea, Rieko?

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