All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Also doesn’t help our “spiritual captain” is bum boys with the captain of our supposed arch nemesis. Ridiculous how soft and friendly this team has become
Five percent of the viewing public thought he was one of the best on field. Is there a mental health crisis in NZ? Ardie had a shit game. He was mostly recognisable for fucking up.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Give it to him Reado
Haha. He’s a sycophant. Part of the problem.
Yeah, but that’s about as hardball as I’ve ever seen Read
His legacy is being trashed. He’s angry
TBF, he was captain of the ABs when the legacy started being trashed ... this rot started under him and Hansen.
SBW's red card in test 2.
Ground Zero.
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Razor between a rock and a hard place now… can’t drop too many players because he absolutely needs to win next game. Does he have a come back in him?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Stockcar86 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Is Alan Jones still available?
He could be in jail by years end (allegedly)
So might be OK for the end of year tour as an interim coach then
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@Jet said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Give it to him Reado
Haha. He’s a sycophant. Part of the problem.
Yeah, but that’s about as hardball as I’ve ever seen Read
His legacy is being trashed. He’s angry
TBF, he was captain of the ABs when the legacy started being trashed ... this rot started under him and Hansen.
SBW's red card in test 2.
Ground Zero.
Crazy isn’t it. You can actually pinpoint the exact moment the All Black’s legacy turned.
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Cracking start to the day
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Also doesn’t help our “spiritual captain” is bum boys with the captain of our supposed arch nemesis. Ridiculous how soft and friendly this team has become
"Uncle Siya, Uncle Siya".....Ardies daughter was filmed exclaiming.
Ardie Savea shouting "this is my house" after the turnover last week tell you all you need to know.
Like the attempted chip and chase at the end of this game.
Ardie Savea's favourite player is Ardie Savea.
The perfect player for the cult of personality age we live in.
All fur coat and no knickers the lot of them.
McCaw didnt even have social media for most of his career.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Ain't gonna happen after the way he and Foster were treated
Who needs to be fired to get him to come back?
From reading Whitelock and Foster's book, Start with the whole board and the comms staff.. NZR seems to have been taken over by ego-centric managers who have completely lost the plot and what's important to NZ rugby
Kirk taking over is a good thing. Businessman who's been around and clearly knows how to build management teams and bring people with him.
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I divide my officers into four classes as follows: the clever, the industrious, the lazy, and the stupid. Each officer always possesses two of these qualities. Those who are clever and industrious I appoint to the General Staff. Use can under certain circumstances be made of those who are stupid and lazy. The man who is clever and lazy qualifies for the highest leadership posts. He has the requisite and the mental clarity for difficult decisions. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be got rid of, for he is too dangerous.
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@canefan said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Stockcar86 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
If they get rid of Roberston and Holland I fully expect Mark Robinson to replace them with Rob Penny and Matt Todd
Robertson is Robinson's boy. Too much invested in him.
Isn't Robinson leaving?
Thankfully. May take some time to clean up what seems to be an almighty mess.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Frank said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Ain't gonna happen after the way he and Foster were treated
Yep all the eggs are in the Robertson basket and he just chucked them all on the floor and stamped on them
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
This has probably been said.
What an absolute disgrace. Biggest loss for the All Blacks in history.
Time for Razor to get the Ian Foster treatment. It is fully justified. No more excuses for him. Never seen an All Blacks team so inconsistent.
I'm struggling to remember watching an AB team give up.
Great "culture" Razor is building.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
This has probably been said.
What an absolute disgrace. Biggest loss for the All Blacks in history.
Time for Razor to get the Ian Foster treatment. It is fully justified. No more excuses for him. Never seen an All Blacks team so inconsistent.
I’m not expecting to hear anything out of camp after a result like this but if I hear anything worthy of sharing you better believe I’ll be posting it. Will throw it in the 2025 thread if so.
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@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Duluth said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Give it to him Reado
Haha. He’s a sycophant. Part of the problem.
Yeah, but that’s about as hardball as I’ve ever seen Read
His legacy is being trashed. He’s angry
TBF, he was captain of the ABs when the legacy started being trashed ... this rot started under him and Hansen.
Master of the wide-eyed panic stare
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On the personnel side, not really sure who you could even pick to vastly turn the team's fortunes around.
Halfbacks are all injured, McKenzie is a better option at 10 than Barrett sure, do your drop Jordie to fullback and being Clarke in on the wing? What's the best possible midfield combination?
In the forwards, maybe Barrett has to go I'd say he and Holland perform a very similar role to the same level. Loose forward trio will get there in time. McAlister had a couple of yips throwing in but no better options there and the props are the best NZ has to offer.
Boks were probably about 10-15 points better tonight and then momentum carried them the rest of the way.
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You can tell beaudie is really not comfortable with contact anymore. He gives several hospitals a game when hes caught with no options as opposed to taking it in. You look at Sascha especially and how he challenges the line and see how much difference it can make. Or Libbok who doesnt hit the line as much - he puts pin point bombs up.
Ive been a semi BB apologist for a while now, but i really think now his game is not working
