All Blacks 2025
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
Has Razor lost the dressing room?
Did he ever have it?
It's a fair question.
He's lucky he has the media and public wrapped around his finger. He has a great PR team.
I always wanted to like the guy, and still want us to turn it around, be that with him or someone else, but was put off from the beginning with that cringe 3 part doco with Jim Kayes, along with the breakdancing and things I mentioned earlier.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
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@stodders He wouldn't be my choice .There were big problems behind the scenes in his previous tenure as All Blacks coach. The sponsors were unhappy. Graham Henry had a lot of crap to clean up in 2004.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders He wouldn't be my choice .There were big problems behind the scenes in his previous tenure as All Blacks coach. The sponsors were unhappy. Graham Henry had a lot of crap to clean up in 2004.
That was over 20 years ago. He has a lot of experience overseas now. And going on what I am reading about why some think Robertson is failing (lack of international experience), he fits the bill.
In truth, I’m not a Mitchell fan. Just found it interesting that he ticks certain boxes.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders He wouldn't be my choice .There were big problems behind the scenes in his previous tenure as All Blacks coach. The sponsors were unhappy. Graham Henry had a lot of crap to clean up in 2004.
That was over 20 years ago. He has a lot of experience overseas now. And going on what I am reading about why some think Robertson is failing (lack of international experience), he fits the bill.
In truth, I’m not a Mitchell fan. Just found it interesting that he ticks certain boxes.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders He wouldn't be my choice .There were big problems behind the scenes in his previous tenure as All Blacks coach. The sponsors were unhappy. Graham Henry had a lot of crap to clean up in 2004.
That was over 20 years ago. He has a lot of experience overseas now. And going on what I am reading about why some think Robertson is failing (lack of international experience), he fits the bill.
In truth, I’m not a Mitchell fan. Just found it interesting that he ticks certain boxes.
Nah he's still a fluffybunny
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I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
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I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
Liked him a lot more when I saw how much he cared in the doco about RWC11
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We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid
As in Will Jordan? Catch and offload to a person in a worse position will Jordan? Any skill outside of just running the ball is not Will's strength.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid
As in Will Jordan? Catch and offload to a person in a worse position will Jordan? Any skill outside of just running the ball is not Will's strength.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:
We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid
As in Will Jordan? Catch and offload to a person in a worse position will Jordan? Any skill outside of just running the ball is not Will's strength.
IIRC he was doing great with that for the Saders. Another guy who appears to be regressing the more time he spends in ABs camp
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I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
@zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:
I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.
Vaai is a bit of a douchebag to be honest. Playing well but carrying on like a tit.
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Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
Shit yeah.
He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.
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I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.
Number 1 : The Team comes first.
"when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".
This is where the current and previous set up falls down.
Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.
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@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
Shit yeah.
He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
Shit yeah.
He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.
Robbie Deans isn’t allowed on his ticket
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@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
This has to be a troll.
Hell no.
@Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:
@stodders said in All Blacks 2025:
Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.
This has to be a troll.
Hell no.
And you wouldn't be able to call him Captain Combover.
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Why would they be unhappy? Zero accountability. Fat pay cheques. Guaranteed spots. No pressure to deliver just appear to try and create sick content for the "rugby is just different" crowd.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
Why would they be unhappy? Zero accountability. Fat pay cheques. Guaranteed spots. No pressure to deliver just appear to try and create sick content for the "rugby is just different" crowd.
I don't know, seems that people like Sam Cane felt a lot pressure from the public. I doubt many play just to pick up cheques.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.
Number 1 : The Team comes first.
"when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".
This is where the current and previous set up falls down.
Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2025:
@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:
I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,
I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .
Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.
Number 1 : The Team comes first.
"when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".
This is where the current and previous set up falls down.
Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.
That ... seems fair.
I don't think he has huge Crusader bias but I do think he values loyalty to players (and his personal experience with them) above what is best for the team.One thing is becoming clear: Super form is not a great indicator of international form.
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Also, we have to recycle forwards if they play abrasive teams like the Boks just a week apart. The forwards don't recover in time.
