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All Blacks 2025

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    I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

    I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

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    • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

      I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

      I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

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      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

      I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

      I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

      Liked him a lot more when I saw how much he cared in the doco about RWC11

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      • No QuarterN No Quarter

        We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid

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        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

        We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid

        As in Will Jordan? Catch and offload to a person in a worse position will Jordan? Any skill outside of just running the ball is not Will's strength.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

          We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid

          As in Will Jordan? Catch and offload to a person in a worse position will Jordan? Any skill outside of just running the ball is not Will's strength.

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          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

          We could have fielded a back three of Clarke - Jordie - Jordan and completely nullified their kicking game, but our coaches are too stupid

          As in Will Jordan? Catch and offload to a person in a worse position will Jordan? Any skill outside of just running the ball is not Will's strength.

          IIRC he was doing great with that for the Saders. Another guy who appears to be regressing the more time he spends in ABs camp

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            What's it going to take to get change? If the players are actually unhappy (I have no idea, just surmising based on other posts), will it need a netball style players' revolt?

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              Why would they be unhappy? Zero accountability. Fat pay cheques. Guaranteed spots. No pressure to deliver just appear to try and create sick content for the "rugby is just different" crowd.

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              • Z zedsdeadbaby

                I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.

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                @zedsdeadbaby said in All Blacks 2025:

                I’d love to see Cam Roigard or Tupou Vaa’i made captain - a statement of intent, ala Siya Kolisi being made the Boks captain in 2018, a look to the future rather than going back. It wouldn’t solve everything but it would reset things to an extent.

                Vaai is a bit of a douchebag to be honest. Playing well but carrying on like a tit.

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                • S stodders

                  Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

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                  @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                  Shit yeah.

                  He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.

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                  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                    I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                    I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                    I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                    I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

                    Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.

                    Number 1 : The Team comes first.

                    "when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".

                    This is where the current and previous set up falls down.

                    Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                      Shit yeah.

                      He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.

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                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                      Shit yeah.

                      He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.

                      Robbie Deans isn’t allowed on his ticket 😉

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                      • KirwanK Kirwan

                        @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                        This has to be a troll.

                        Hell no.

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                        nostrildamus
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                        @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                        This has to be a troll.

                        Hell no.

                        And you wouldn't be able to call him Captain Combover.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          Why would they be unhappy? Zero accountability. Fat pay cheques. Guaranteed spots. No pressure to deliver just appear to try and create sick content for the "rugby is just different" crowd.

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Why would they be unhappy? Zero accountability. Fat pay cheques. Guaranteed spots. No pressure to deliver just appear to try and create sick content for the "rugby is just different" crowd.

                          I don't know, seems that people like Sam Cane felt a lot pressure from the public. I doubt many play just to pick up cheques.

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                          • JetJ Jet

                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                            I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

                            Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.

                            Number 1 : The Team comes first.

                            "when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".

                            This is where the current and previous set up falls down.

                            Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

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                            nostrildamus
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                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                            I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

                            Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.

                            Number 1 : The Team comes first.

                            "when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".

                            This is where the current and previous set up falls down.

                            Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

                            That ... seems fair.
                            I don't think he has huge Crusader bias but I do think he values loyalty to players (and his personal experience with them) above what is best for the team.

                            One thing is becoming clear: Super form is not a great indicator of international form.

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                              Also, we have to recycle forwards if they play abrasive teams like the Boks just a week apart. The forwards don't recover in time.

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                              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                                I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

                                Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.

                                Number 1 : The Team comes first.

                                "when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".

                                This is where the current and previous set up falls down.

                                Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

                                That ... seems fair.
                                I don't think he has huge Crusader bias but I do think he values loyalty to players (and his personal experience with them) above what is best for the team.

                                One thing is becoming clear: Super form is not a great indicator of international form.

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                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                                I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

                                Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.

                                Number 1 : The Team comes first.

                                "when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".

                                This is where the current and previous set up falls down.

                                Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

                                That ... seems fair.
                                I don't think he has huge Crusader bias but I do think he values loyalty to players (and his personal experience with them) above what is best for the team.

                                One thing is becoming clear: Super form is not a great indicator of international form.

                                Which people will again forget once the Crusaders win yet another title and we see Sevu Reece wheeled out again with the same people demanding guys like David Havili, Ethan Blackadder and co. to be added back into the squad.

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                                  We just need to get Oli Mathis on the creatine and sirloin steaks and we will win the lot.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                                    Shit yeah.

                                    He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.

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                                    mohikamo
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                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach

                                    Funny as!

                                    But you'd be right; he'd be a much better coach now than he was back then.

                                    Lots and lots and lots of learnings.

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                                    • S stodders

                                      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Thinking for future…Would people take John Mitchell back as head coach in future? He’s got lots of international experience as an assistant and may well lead England’s women to WC success.

                                      Shit yeah.

                                      He could go one better and get FIFTEEN Crusaders in the AB starting line up.

                                      Robbie Deans isn’t allowed on his ticket 😉

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                                      @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Robbie Deans

                                      Played against Robbie Deans at school
                                      He was fuckin good.
                                      Carved us up, the little prick.
                                      And his F'n brother, and jock hobbs.
                                      They had a f'n good team!

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                                        Cam Roigard is fast becoming our most important Allblack.

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                                        • JetJ Jet

                                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I remember not being crazy with Hansen then he got the job and we were. winning and I liked him ,

                                          I reckon I’d like any coach if they brought success , dont care about th3 personality, just establish a winning culture and I’ll be a fan .

                                          Steve Hansens 3 non negotiable's.

                                          Number 1 : The Team comes first.

                                          "when we had to make tough decisions the team came above the individual".

                                          This is where the current and previous set up falls down.

                                          Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

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                                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Beaudy, ALB, Rieko, Reece, Perenara, Christie, Scooter as captain, all examples of tough decisions not being made.

                                          Very very tough
                                          Most of those guys will be on very fat, and very long contracts.

                                          But NZR does have a lot of players on their books.
                                          All pro players in NZ (including provincial) are NZR employees.
                                          600 to 700 players to choose from.

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