All Blacks vs Springboks II
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@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
When will nzrfu admit that breaking away from sth African super teams has seriously damaged us..super doesn't prepare us for this type of physical rugby
But South Africa chose to broke away? Not us?
Erroneous.
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Mark Robinson should've spent less time nodding along at Jacinda’s Fortress NZ routine and more time safeguarding the future of Super Rugby.
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
When will nzrfu admit that breaking away from sth African super teams has seriously damaged us..super doesn't prepare us for this type of physical rugby
But South Africa chose to broke away? Not us?
Erroneous.
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Mark Robinson should've spent less time nodding along at Jacinda’s Fortress NZ routine and more time safeguarding the future of Super Rugby.
Fuck off, the entire world was fucked at that time including South Africa who's airports were closed to international flights between late March and June 2020 (not sure how the fuck we would have all been playing games - on the PS4).
South Africa had been threatening to leave for a decade, already had teams in Europe, and NZ and Aus shared comp (2021) occurred after the Saffas threw their toys out of the cot (2020). They even claimed they left because it was a slight that we decided to hold our own domestic competition when it was the only competition available to us.
I love the Boks as our old enemy, but Saffa rugby trotting out this bullshit can go fuck itself.
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@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
When will nzrfu admit that breaking away from sth African super teams has seriously damaged us..super doesn't prepare us for this type of physical rugby
But South Africa chose to broke away? Not us?
Erroneous.
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Mark Robinson should've spent less time nodding along at Jacinda’s Fortress NZ routine and more time safeguarding the future of Super Rugby.
Fuck off, the entire world was fucked at that time including South Africa who's airports were closed to international flights between late March and June 2020 (not sure how the fuck we would have all been playing games - on the PS4).
South Africa had been threatening to leave for a decade, already had teams in Europe, and NZ and Aus shared comp (2021) occurred after the Saffas threw their toys out of the cot (2020). They even claimed they left because it was a slight that we decided to hold our own domestic competition when it was the only competition available to us.
I love the Boks as our old enemy, but Saffa rugby trotting out this bullshit can go fuck itself.
@Nepia said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
When will nzrfu admit that breaking away from sth African super teams has seriously damaged us..super doesn't prepare us for this type of physical rugby
But South Africa chose to broke away? Not us?
Erroneous.
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Mark Robinson should've spent less time nodding along at Jacinda’s Fortress NZ routine and more time safeguarding the future of Super Rugby.
Fuck off, the entire world was fucked at that time including South Africa who's airports were closed to international flights between late March and June 2020 (not sure how the fuck we would have all been playing games - on the PS4).
South Africa had been threatening to leave for a decade, already had teams in Europe, and NZ and Aus shared comp (2021) occurred after the Saffas threw their toys out of the cot (2020). They even claimed they left because it was a slight that we decided to hold our own domestic competition when it was the only competition available to us.
I love the Boks as our old enemy, but Saffa rugby trotting out this bullshit can go fuck itself.
This, 100%. South African rugby wanted more pie because they brought more TV revenue. They didn’t get it within SANZAR, so COVID gave them the excuse they needed to shift north, which as Nepia rightly points out had been threatened for some time (unless they got what they wanted).
South Africa did what it wanted purely for their own needs. That’s fine. But don’t try and dress it up as a result of something the Antipodean cousins did. Own it.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@akan004 Martin Devlin too.
https://twitter.com/martindevlinnz/status/1966788068607680994?s=46
Well Devlin would have been taking shots at them even if they'd won, while hyping up the Warriors heroic loss.
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@hydro11 said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
When will nzrfu admit that breaking away from sth African super teams has seriously damaged us..super doesn't prepare us for this type of physical rugby
But South Africa chose to broke away? Not us?
Erroneous.
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Mark Robinson should've spent less time nodding along at Jacinda’s Fortress NZ routine and more time safeguarding the future of Super Rugby.
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
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@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
Have you finished watching the match back yet? Intrigued to know your thoughts.
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@NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
Have you finished watching the match back yet? Intrigued to know your thoughts.
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
Have you finished watching the match back yet? Intrigued to know your thoughts.
Nah got caught holiday planning.
21 minutes in. That first AB try has me wondering what all the lack-of-skills talk was about
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@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
Have you finished watching the match back yet? Intrigued to know your thoughts.
Nah got caught holiday planning.
21 minutes in. That first AB try has me wondering what all the lack-of-skills talk was about
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@stodders said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@NTA said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@PN said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
The reality is, during COVID, travel restrictions from the Hermit Kingdom left SA teams with no real option but to head north. Let’s not pretend they had much choice when NZ and AU cooked up a shared comp and left SA out in the cold.
Argentina didn't cry about it. They turned up and made history.
Have you finished watching the match back yet? Intrigued to know your thoughts.
Nah got caught holiday planning.
21 minutes in. That first AB try has me wondering what all the lack-of-skills talk was about
You watched the first act. Act 2 begins shortly. Then act 3 is the entire second half.
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Fist half thoughts:
Early on the ABs looked good if a little shaky under line speed pressure.
The first AB try was very nice. The intercept from Kolbe was a lack of eyes-up play by Proctor. Could have scored at the other end but the pace got to him.
Vaai is a dickhead. Not really a profound observation
maybe he should concentrate on pushing at scrums instead of clapping and laughing?Wiesse is the avatar of rip and tear.
Boks scrum going great guns with 30 gone.
B Barrett looking ponderous and slow. He doesn't like heavy traffic. Failed to exit right before half-time which was a basic bitch error.
New Bok winger is bloody useful.
AB defensive line noticeably crooked. Pushing hard in the first 2 channels but lagging a bit wider.
AB Lineout at 35:50 - wtf happened??
Everyone playing as frantically as a virgin couple on their wedding night. With about as satisfying a result.
Lot of injuries and HIA.
Impression: Boks are ascendant but not finishing their opportunities. ABs are attacking from depth - too deep IMHO - but lacking a bit of subtlety; not much in the way of deception.
Bed time. Second half tomorrow.
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Some actual analysis albeit for less than 2 minutes
(https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CbPJFxyCM/?mibextid=wwXIfr)
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Some actual analysis albeit for less than 2 minutes
(https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1CbPJFxyCM/?mibextid=wwXIfr)
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@Tim Mils providing two clear examples that BB kicked when he shouldn’t have - first when we were down 7 points and we had acres of space out wide with players aligned for in attack and limited Bok defenders. Terrible play.
Second we are now down by 14 and a miracle chip when we had numbers out wide and space but didn’t use it. Big momentum turner when the Boks recovered the ball and kicked it down the line into their 22.
That’s not team tactics but blinkered play from our 1st 5.
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@Tim Mils providing two clear examples that BB kicked when he shouldn’t have - first when we were down 7 points and we had acres of space out wide with players aligned for in attack and limited Bok defenders. Terrible play.
Second we are now down by 14 and a miracle chip when we had numbers out wide and space but didn’t use it. Big momentum turner when the Boks recovered the ball and kicked it down the line into their 22.
That’s not team tactics but blinkered play from our 1st 5.
@ACT-Crusader Cheers. Thanks for the effort post.
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Word of advice from Europe. Get rid of BB. It beggars belief that NZ do not have a better fly half than him or that they continue to use him.
Years from now you’ll look back and say what were we thinking all those years if you don’t already.
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Bit unlucky on that scrum.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Bit unlucky on that scrum.
Replay on Lomax side shows clear pen against Boks LH for collapsing onto knee.
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Very very harsh full arm penalty at the scrum. Both props genuinely appeared to slip on the replay not 'pressure and pull' like the ref claimed
@steelpotato said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Very very harsh full arm penalty at the scrum. Both props genuinely appeared to slip on the replay not 'pressure and pull' like the ref claimed
In fact Penalty against Boks LH for collapsing on to knee.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Shades of Anton Oliver days in the lineout.
Tbf that last lineout was more on Holland/just good play from SA.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Springboks II:
Shades of Anton Oliver days in the lineout.
Tbf that last lineout was more on Holland/just good play from SA.
Throw too low.
