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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

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    • S stodders

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

      Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

      There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

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      @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

      Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

      There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

      Just a bunch of guys who seemingly do similar things sort of, without clear defined roles. Typical middle management strategy

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        It does appear from the outside looking in razor has made a similar mistake to fozzy , surrounded himself with a bunch of assistants who are super rugby level and who don’t really cut it at international level .

        It’s starting to feel very dejavu

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        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

          It does appear from the outside looking in razor has made a similar mistake to fozzy , surrounded himself with a bunch of assistants who are super rugby level and who don’t really cut it at international level .

          It’s starting to feel very dejavu

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          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

          It does appear from the outside looking in razor has made a similar mistake to fozzy , surrounded himself with a bunch of assistants who are super rugby level and who don’t really cut it at international level .

          It’s starting to feel very dejavu

          not quite. when foster got job there was a fight for assistant plus the timing meant some grabbed jobs elsewhere because there was no guarantee that foster was going to get job.
          robertson got a free swing , appointed well in advance and could have anyone who he wanted (assuming they wanted to work with him)

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            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

            It does appear from the outside looking in razor has made a similar mistake to fozzy , surrounded himself with a bunch of assistants who are super rugby level and who don’t really cut it at international level .

            It’s starting to feel very dejavu

            not quite. when foster got job there was a fight for assistant plus the timing meant some grabbed jobs elsewhere because there was no guarantee that foster was going to get job.
            robertson got a free swing , appointed well in advance and could have anyone who he wanted (assuming they wanted to work with him)

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            @ploughboy i thought others went elsewhere because the appointment of Foster seemed inevitable.

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              @taniwharugby was addressing assistants

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                Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

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                • chimoausC chimoaus

                  Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

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                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

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                  It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                  https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

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                  • S stodders

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

                    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

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                    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

                    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

                    Which was my point. David Hill was used as a kicking specialist under Hansen and Foster. Now they must be relying on one of the assistants I mentioned as a backs skills coach.

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                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                      e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                      It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                      https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

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                      @akan004 why can’t any of the current coaches grow a spine and just say it isn’t fucken good enough. The language they use is better in a poetry class than a rugby field. They can fuck off with their moments and learnings.

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                        Saw a clip of one of Kolbe's try, the one that came off Siya's huge bust.

                        This came form set-peice where again, we got monstered, but what was tellign was how slow our loosies all were in reacting and getting.

                        Parker & Sititi would have been turned toward the short blind so can expect them to be slower to get back into defence, but Ardie looked knackered and moving so slowly, he was a good 15-20m away from Siya when he was finally tackled.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          Saw a clip of one of Kolbe's try, the one that came off Siya's huge bust.

                          This came form set-peice where again, we got monstered, but what was tellign was how slow our loosies all were in reacting and getting.

                          Parker & Sititi would have been turned toward the short blind so can expect them to be slower to get back into defence, but Ardie looked knackered and moving so slowly, he was a good 15-20m away from Siya when he was finally tackled.

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                          @taniwharugby when you getting monstered at set piece like we were, the loosie are generally slow coming off side of scrum, because they are trying to hold scrum. Tends to take a few seconds to react when you concentrating on trying to use your energy to hold your weight.

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                            @taniwharugby when you getting monstered at set piece like we were, the loosie are generally slow coming off side of scrum, because they are trying to hold scrum. Tends to take a few seconds to react when you concentrating on trying to use your energy to hold your weight.

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                            @Dan54 well duh, as I said, Parker/Sititi were turned well away, but seeing how slow Ardie responded and was then moving across, was most unlike him.

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                              So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

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                                So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

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                                @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                                How the fuck would that work Caleb Tangitau could have played on the right wing Reiko at centre doesn't effect if he plays or not., and Clarke always plays left wing Tangitau always a right wing.Dumb post you are shooting from the hip with no knowledge.

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                                  So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

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                                  @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                                  The original Auckland side was a copy and paste from last weekend. They had injuries and released the real side today. The ABs are not the only changes

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    @No-Quarter he did say they had worked hard on it, but one assumes whatever they are doing, aint up to it.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @No-Quarter he did say they had worked hard on it, but one assumes whatever they are doing, aint up to it.

                                    The only footage I've seen of them practising is jumping above someone wearing a mattress on their back or someone else waving some pool noodles in their face.

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                                    • A akan004

                                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                      e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                      It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                      https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

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                                      @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                      e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                      It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                      https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                      That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                                        The original Auckland side was a copy and paste from last weekend. They had injuries and released the real side today. The ABs are not the only changes

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                                        @Duluth ahh I see, find it so dumb why they even bother posting a copy and paste team in the first place. Still sucks that Tangitau is injured either way.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                                          How the fuck would that work Caleb Tangitau could have played on the right wing Reiko at centre doesn't effect if he plays or not., and Clarke always plays left wing Tangitau always a right wing.Dumb post you are shooting from the hip with no knowledge.

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                                          @Chris The reason I asked was because I had no knowledge of why he was left out. Just a question bro no need to get too salty about it.
                                          Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious.

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