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  • S stodders

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

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    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

    Which was my point. David Hill was used as a kicking specialist under Hansen and Foster. Now they must be relying on one of the assistants I mentioned as a backs skills coach.

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      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

      Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

      e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

      It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

      https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

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      @akan004 why can’t any of the current coaches grow a spine and just say it isn’t fucken good enough. The language they use is better in a poetry class than a rugby field. They can fuck off with their moments and learnings.

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        Saw a clip of one of Kolbe's try, the one that came off Siya's huge bust.

        This came form set-peice where again, we got monstered, but what was tellign was how slow our loosies all were in reacting and getting.

        Parker & Sititi would have been turned toward the short blind so can expect them to be slower to get back into defence, but Ardie looked knackered and moving so slowly, he was a good 15-20m away from Siya when he was finally tackled.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          Saw a clip of one of Kolbe's try, the one that came off Siya's huge bust.

          This came form set-peice where again, we got monstered, but what was tellign was how slow our loosies all were in reacting and getting.

          Parker & Sititi would have been turned toward the short blind so can expect them to be slower to get back into defence, but Ardie looked knackered and moving so slowly, he was a good 15-20m away from Siya when he was finally tackled.

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          @taniwharugby when you getting monstered at set piece like we were, the loosie are generally slow coming off side of scrum, because they are trying to hold scrum. Tends to take a few seconds to react when you concentrating on trying to use your energy to hold your weight.

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          • Dan54D Dan54

            @taniwharugby when you getting monstered at set piece like we were, the loosie are generally slow coming off side of scrum, because they are trying to hold scrum. Tends to take a few seconds to react when you concentrating on trying to use your energy to hold your weight.

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            @Dan54 well duh, as I said, Parker/Sititi were turned well away, but seeing how slow Ardie responded and was then moving across, was most unlike him.

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              So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

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              • U upthelanders

                So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

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                @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                How the fuck would that work Caleb Tangitau could have played on the right wing Reiko at centre doesn't effect if he plays or not., and Clarke always plays left wing Tangitau always a right wing.Dumb post you are shooting from the hip with no knowledge.

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                  So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

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                  @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                  So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                  The original Auckland side was a copy and paste from last weekend. They had injuries and released the real side today. The ABs are not the only changes

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @No-Quarter he did say they had worked hard on it, but one assumes whatever they are doing, aint up to it.

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @No-Quarter he did say they had worked hard on it, but one assumes whatever they are doing, aint up to it.

                    The only footage I've seen of them practising is jumping above someone wearing a mattress on their back or someone else waving some pool noodles in their face.

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                    • A akan004

                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                      e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                      It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                      https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

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                      @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                      e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                      It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                      https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                      That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                        So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                        The original Auckland side was a copy and paste from last weekend. They had injuries and released the real side today. The ABs are not the only changes

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                        @Duluth ahh I see, find it so dumb why they even bother posting a copy and paste team in the first place. Still sucks that Tangitau is injured either way.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                          So Caleb Tangitau got dropped from the Auckland 23 because Razor had a wee cry that Clarke and Ioane weren’t in it? Or is he injured again? Poor guy.

                          How the fuck would that work Caleb Tangitau could have played on the right wing Reiko at centre doesn't effect if he plays or not., and Clarke always plays left wing Tangitau always a right wing.Dumb post you are shooting from the hip with no knowledge.

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                          upthelanders
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                          @Chris The reason I asked was because I had no knowledge of why he was left out. Just a question bro no need to get too salty about it.
                          Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious.

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                            @Chris The reason I asked was because I had no knowledge of why he was left out. Just a question bro no need to get too salty about it.
                            Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious.

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                              @Chris The reason I asked was because I had no knowledge of why he was left out. Just a question bro no need to get too salty about it.
                              Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious.

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                              @upthelanders said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Otherwise it sucks that he’s injured again, hope it’s nothing serious.

                              Yep I totally agree with that.

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

                                Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.

                                By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                  e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                  It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                  https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                  That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

                                  Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.

                                  By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.

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                                  @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                  e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                  It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                  https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                  That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

                                  Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.

                                  By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.

                                  Jesus fucking wept. At this point I'd take Jamie Joseph regardless of results just to hear someone use a normal fucking sentence that makes sense.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

                                    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

                                    Just a bunch of guys who seemingly do similar things sort of, without clear defined roles. Typical middle management strategy

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                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

                                    There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

                                    Just a bunch of guys who seemingly do similar things sort of, without clear defined roles. Typical middle management strategy

                                    That’s not true.

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                                      Im still fucking seething.

                                      Cant remember the name of the poster who said this originally so apologies...

                                      But our nadir coincided with when the sport ceased to be a spectacle.

                                      He was bang on the money.

                                      The stop start, skullduggery infused, sport we have now, doesnt suit us.

                                      If it did we would be picking Ben Tameifuna and Karl Tu'inukuafe.

                                      You need a gun out half and 14 other guttersnipes.

                                      All this talk of the Boks playing Tony ball etc....nonsense. It will be 8 man rugby, whinging to the refs, physios on the field and moving the scoreboard in increments of 3 come 2027.

                                      The refs freeze, the players freeze.

                                      It was ever thus.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

                                        There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

                                        Which was my point. David Hill was used as a kicking specialist under Hansen and Foster. Now they must be relying on one of the assistants I mentioned as a backs skills coach.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @stodders said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Who is the AB skills coach now? Hansen, Holland and Ellison don't inspire confidence.

                                        There isn't a specific skills coach I believe, and hasn't been since Mick Byrne.

                                        they must be relying on one of the assistants I mentioned as a backs skills coach.

                                        Yes, you're right.

                                        All the training photos & video clips show Jason Holland is the back's skills coach, you can see him managing the high-ball sessions and waving pool noodles in the player's faces.

                                        Why there isn't being more criticism directed Holland's way by Canes supporters on here (@Canes4life @canefan, etc.) given the years of mediocrity they endured under his watch beats me.

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                                        • R reprobate

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                          e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                          It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                          https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                          That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

                                          Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.

                                          By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.

                                          Jesus fucking wept. At this point I'd take Jamie Joseph regardless of results just to hear someone use a normal fucking sentence that makes sense.

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                                          @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Apologies if it’s been posted already but this did not make for good reading. Two worst ever this year. We need a new defensive coach.

                                          e9fab812-43fb-4a73-a441-515cfa67372a-image.png

                                          It's all good according to Tamati. Nothing to worry about.

                                          https://share.google/00VOuhKdxm5Q7FZSu

                                          That's some disturbing reading. I feel I'm being gaslight as my eyes tell me whatever Ellison is saying clearly isn't working.

                                          Obviously you're not connecting the moments well enough.

                                          By connecting the moments with the right body language you build the momentum to success.

                                          Jesus fucking wept. At this point I'd take Jamie Joseph regardless of results just to hear someone use a normal fucking sentence that makes sense.

                                          The new system’s goal is to win the ball back, knowing the All Blacks are at their most dangerous with turnover ball in unstructured play. The coach said that emphasis is “massive”, not just in the breakdown, but in all areas of the game.

                                          Jesus. We're living in the 2000's again (or trying to). Not convinced this works - our try at the weekend was superb, but it was not a quick strike off turnover ball

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