All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@frugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm caught in two minds here. On the one hand, I do think that is more or less the best available 23. On the other hand, I think only dropping DMac and Kirifi from that shambles feels too generous. Granted there is a couple back from injury, but I think you could make a reasonable argument that Lomax, Sititi, B Barrett, J Barrett, Proctor, Williams & Newell also could have paid the price.
Would have been a strong statement to leave out a few more, but the pressure Razor is under probably means he can't take a long-term shot like that.
McKenzie is still in the 23, so that 6 tries to 1 drubbing is rightly all laid at the feet of the bench loosie.
We can also pin it on the halfbacks…..
True that, 12 cap Cam Roigard must already be significantly better than Carter and McCaw ever were if his absence results in a rout like that.
While he'll be an upgrade, he won't win the match on his own.
There's no quick fix for the mess we seem to be in.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm feeling at least as confident as I dd for the last game!
Also we aren't facing RG Snyman. That dude gives me nightmares.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@BerniesCorner Taylor back is also important.
Big Sami goes to the bench and Brodie goes home to think again.
Surely our scrum isn't ging to capitulate to the Aussies? Lineout looks strong if the throwing is good.
I'm feeling at least as confident as I dd for the last game!
Where I am coming from is I think Aus will be seriously fired up for this one, like close to RWC final fired up, and will have plenty of self belief they can pull it off after their trip to SA. We will need to weather a storm of sorts, and I am not convinced we will be able to do so without conceding points. And if we get behind on the scorecard, well our own self-belief would be at an all time low after last weekend, so I can see them running over the top of us the way SA did (hopefully not that many points though).
I also think SA lost the first test more than we won it given how many basic errors they made. I said in another thread we currently rely on the opposition being below par, if Aus are on form we are in a bit of trouble.
All that said, our players know the Aussies a lot better and have had plenty of success against them at Super and test level, so that probably evens things up a bit
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@Dan54 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Games I saw him play weren't so much he couldn't tackle, but more he seemed not to attempt them at times
He'll feel right at home in this AB team then....
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@No-Quarter I reckon Aussies at Eden Park are a little bit like Blues in Christchurch. There's a mental hurdle to get over.
I'm not betting on them.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
When we win TRC all our problems will be forgotten.
Is that you, Ian?
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@mohikamo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Is it just me . . .
This is just about the most interesting AB match for me, since i'd say the 2015 WCF.I've always hated losing to Australia in anything. I can remember Brian McKechnie having no chance with that worm burner.
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@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This team is stronger than the AB side v SA.
Holland is a ball supply unit, Roigard's defensive kicking ability, PT in good form and Clarke's aerial skills.
Good to see Carter retained on the wing.The Holland hype train has got to stop. He’s let in two tries in a row with lazy ruck defence
The last one was more being overly eager.
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@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm feeling at least as confident as I dd for the last game!
Also we aren't facing RG Snyman. That dude gives me nightmares.
Always a pleasure to have an AB on the fern. Welcome.
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@No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I see the TAB has us at $1.16 and Aus at $5. That's some seriously good money on Aus, they are every chance to beat us this weekend and on form should do so. They are banking on the Eden Park record and an Aus mental block to get the ABs home.
That's good money and with good reason. It's a bloody hard place to win for foreign teams. ABs are going to be steaming after the record loss.
The odds might be better for Australia if we had Skelton, Valetini, Wright, and a backup 10 with a decent level of experience.
Sensible odds I think.
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Also we aren't facing RG Snyman.
You mean staring helplessly upwards while in a quivering foetal position...
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
This team is stronger than the AB side v SA.
Holland is a ball supply unit, Roigard's defensive kicking ability, PT in good form and Clarke's aerial skills.
Good to see Carter retained on the wing.The Holland hype train has got to stop. He’s let in two tries in a row with lazy ruck defence
The last one was more being overly eager.
Tomato tomato
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@Tim said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@No-Quarter Valetini is a big loss for them.
Indeed. And two of their best back 3 players are also out.
No excuses aye Razor….
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Has he though ? stats do not tell you that .
It could be the opposition are using the channel Havilli defends in.why would they do that I wonder? < Thinks>.
Because they were worried about Ennor.
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So we are watching :
A functioning lineout: Return of Holland and Taylor's throwing accuracy.
Improving fitness for Lomax, Roigard and Sititi.
Roigard's kicking
Proctor's attacking involvement.
Potential changing of the guard with Lakai.
More from Carter, promising so far.
and Smiling %
