All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Canerbry Jordie can stay, but yeah I agree Scott and Beauden need to be thanked and wished all the best in their future as former All Blacks.
I wouldn’t mind Ardie as captain, he seems to win a lot more than Scott.
The blessed life of the Barretts only gets disrupted by injury.
As you say, this isn't something you wish on any player but if the ABs go to Perth and Jordie is the last one there doesn't the team just look better overall ?
Beauden and Scott have done some terrific things in Black but when was the last time either of them did ? It's time to move on from them.
I have a feeling Scott has been playing injured. But if he has, that is a black mark against the coaches.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Canerbry Jordie can stay, but yeah I agree Scott and Beauden need to be thanked and wished all the best in their future as former All Blacks.
I wouldn’t mind Ardie as captain, he seems to win a lot more than Scott.
The blessed life of the Barretts only gets disrupted by injury.
As you say, this isn't something you wish on any player but if the ABs go to Perth and Jordie is the last one there doesn't the team just look better overall ?
Beauden and Scott have done some terrific things in Black but when was the last time either of them did ? It's time to move on from them.
I have a feeling Scott has been playing injured. But if he has, that is a black mark against the coaches.
You reckon ? or has he just hit the wall ?
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I'm not the biggest Darry fan but the ABs could definitely use him in the squad. The starting duo of Vaai and Holland just doesn't have enough bulk and starch.
Wouldn't discard Scott Barrett as a player - just as a captain
Another example of a worrying selection in our forward pack - just like persisting with Sititi at 8 this season when clearly he needs a reset/spell out of the team and to come back.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm not the biggest Darry fan but the ABs could definitely use him in the squad. The starting duo of Vaai and Holland just doesn't have enough bulk and starch.
Another example of a worrying selection in our forward pack - just like persisting with Sititi at 8 this season when clearly he needs a reset/spell out of the team and to come back.
about 115kg and over 120kg respectively ? really ?
Disclaimer: I'm completely guessing those weights.
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Great insight by SBW.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Great insight by SBW.
not watching but a few "bros" thrown in I hope.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Great insight by SBW.
not watching but a few "bros" thrown in I hope.
Don’t forget the Usos
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm not the biggest Darry fan but the ABs could definitely use him in the squad. The starting duo of Vaai and Holland just doesn't have enough bulk and starch.
Another example of a worrying selection in our forward pack - just like persisting with Sititi at 8 this season when clearly he needs a reset/spell out of the team and to come back.
about 115kg and over 120kg respectively ? really ?
Disclaimer: I'm completely guessing those weights.
Well I guess my point is they dont play like it
They dont use their bulk
Numbers can say one thing and the eye test says another - just like how I dont really give a fuck if Nic Gill wants to come out and tell everyone how fast Rieko is - he clearly doesn't have the same pace and explosion as he used to.
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On Beaudy, what made him so effective was his acceleration and gas which made him such a deadly threat at the line. Unfortunately he no longer has that so he’s not as impactful for us compared to someone like DMac who still has it.
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@Canes4life he also has shy-ed away from contact compared to earlier years - understandable given the concussion issues he had but doesn't mean he should get a free pass and keep getting selected. He was starting to lose form more than 2 world cups ago. Just crazy stuff.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
On Beaudy, what made him so effective was his acceleration and gas which made him such a deadly threat at the line. Unfortunately he’s no longer has that so he’s not as impactful for us compared to someone like DMac who still has it.
I can't even tell if Beauden still has any pace or acceleration, because he's not even trying to use it. He's walking and shovelling. At times it's reminiscent of watching Sexton play in the last 10 minutes before his retirement
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
On Beaudy, what made him so effective was his acceleration and gas which made him such a deadly threat at the line. Unfortunately he no longer has that so he’s not as impactful for us compared to someone like DMac who still has it.
He used angles too with that pace. And even when there wasn’t the gap and he knew he could take the ball into contact and set up.
The kicking though, that has fallen off big time
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Razor’s painted himself into a corner with selections. He can’t afford to lose any games, but he also can’t afford to bench his supposed ‘marquee’ players and blood new combinations. He’s done well in the past by building his teams from scratch, however at this level I think the technical detail is a bit beyond him/his team. Unfortunate position to find out you’re not wearing any clothes.
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
Hmm. Reckon we should be up by more. But only a little.
Possession seems to be key. Whoever has itlooks likely to score.
Can't complain about ref... yet
Yeah both teams leaking points ,
Bledisloe games always seem to resemble super rugby
Funny that
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
I'm not the biggest Darry fan but the ABs could definitely use him in the squad. The starting duo of Vaai and Holland just doesn't have enough bulk and starch.
Wouldn't discard Scott Barrett as a player - just as a captain
Another example of a worrying selection in our forward pack - just like persisting with Sititi at 8 this season when clearly he needs a reset/spell out of the team and to come back.
I thought Holland was bloody good, plays like a lock should winning lineout ball and just working.
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Tamiti Ellison is a bigger thief drawing a coaching salary for defence than he was drawing a salary as a Super rugby player.
Have to admire a man who is defense coach of the Crusaders in their worst season in years and then slides into the All Black job and concedes record amounts of points but receives very little scrutiny for either.
He is the invisible man when it comes to accountability.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe I:
@Canes4life he also has shy-ed away from contact compared to earlier years - understandable given the concussion issues he had but doesn't mean he should get a free pass and keep getting selected. He was starting to lose form more than 2 world cups ago. Just crazy stuff.
We need to be ruthless like we were with JSavea. As soon as started to decline, he was gone. The same needs to happen to Beaudy. Great All Black and he will be remembered for some generational plays but it’s time to move on. DMac and Love need more opportunity at 10, with Roigard at 9 they are less pressured to make key decisions and can just play on instinct which could be the key to unlocking this side.
Before that happens though our forwards need to roll up their sleeves.
