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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    I think I saw Caleb Clarke pulled up better than expected and was well enough to travel to Perth so that sounds somewhat positive.

    Looking forward to seeing the backline without Beauden at 10

    I think Scott Barrett could add some grunt at lock if he is fit - I suspect they may revert to Vaai at 6 if so.

    I would take the opportunity to rotate Sititi out of the 23 but I doubt that happens.

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    @KiwiMurph was Clarke an ankle sprain? If so, depending on whether it’s a high ankle sprain might determine his ability to run freely.

    Jordan and Carter will be retained.

    Jordie basically played 1st receiver more than DMac, allowing DMac to roam a bit more where he is dangerous.

    Early in the match Jordie dropped back to the right wing defensively for kick receptions.

    I suspect they will retain Proctor.

    Hopefully Love on the bench.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    First time in a long long time where we're going into a test against the Wallabies thinking we'll get tipped over (probably 20 years I would say).

    I can think of a fair few where my optimism waned and some of those we lost and some we won.

    • the Bledisloe test in 2007 at the MCG where Lucky was selected at centre
    • the Sydney 2008 test or better known as the ‘Robbie Deans anthem’ test
    • Brissy 2011
    • Dunners 2013 - no McCaw and Kaino, but we were able to scrape out a win
    • Brissy 2017 - newish look forward pack and combinations in the backline.

    Out of that lot, maybe the 08 Sydney test was in the air, but i still backed us that night. 09 Sydney test is another, but other than that, I went into those other matches mentioned still expecting us to win, mainly because we always won in those years haha.

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    @Unite said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @sparky said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    Why am I so worried that Robertson's squad will spend most of the week "having fun in Perth"

    The west coast surfing is good I hear.

    Not so much in Perth.

    The west coast is rather large.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @NTA maybe if he goes surfing and leaves them to sort themselves out?

    That could be a permanent solution... 🦈

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    I’d personally like to see some calculated risk taking with selection.

    Start Tupaea at 12 and bench Jordie. He can come in at business end. Gains some valuable minutes and we get to see what he can do starting.

    Likewise, start Lakai at 7, with RD at 8. Perhaps rest Wally and have Luke J on bench.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I’d personally like to see some calculated risk taking with selection.

    Start Tupaea at 12 and bench Jordie. He can come in at business end. Gains some valuable minutes and we get to see what he can do starting.

    Likewise, start Lakai at 7, with RD at 8. Perhaps rest Wally and have Luke J on bench.

    Jordie was the second best player on the pitch. No sure we ever want to bench him. Tupaea has a serious case of hero ball and needs that to be fixed before he gets regular minutes.

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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I’d personally like to see some calculated risk taking with selection.

    Start Tupaea at 12 and bench Jordie. He can come in at business end. Gains some valuable minutes and we get to see what he can do starting.

    Likewise, start Lakai at 7, with RD at 8. Perhaps rest Wally and have Luke J on bench.

    Jordie was the second best player on the pitch. No sure we ever want to bench him. Tupaea has a serious case of hero ball and needs that to be fixed before he gets regular minutes.

    I had to look that up and I'm even more baffled after seeing the supposed meaning.

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    @jimmyb you can play Tupaea for 45 and Jordie for 35 and not lose a huge amount. His hard carries would be a useful tactical variation.

    Starting outside DMac would be a good opportunity to ask QT to show us how he can play a mature game.

    And without JB as lynchpin perhaps they’d pass a bit more to Proctor.

    Rassie has developed depth by letting his newer players have some responsibility. It’s worked well.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I’d personally like to see some calculated risk taking with selection.

    Start Tupaea at 12 and bench Jordie. He can come in at business end. Gains some valuable minutes and we get to see what he can do starting.

    Likewise, start Lakai at 7, with RD at 8. Perhaps rest Wally and have Luke J on bench.

    Jordie was the second best player on the pitch. No sure we ever want to bench him. Tupaea has a serious case of hero ball and needs that to be fixed before he gets regular minutes.

    I had to look that up and I'm even more baffled after seeing the supposed meaning.

    As in he’d rather go for glory than putting in a sensible pass or put his team mates into space. He did it a few times on the weekend, numerous people pointed it out, and was a serial offender during SR

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I’d personally like to see some calculated risk taking with selection.

    Start Tupaea at 12 and bench Jordie. He can come in at business end. Gains some valuable minutes and we get to see what he can do starting.

    There’s risk taking and there’s borderline stupidity…..

    We don’t have too many backs in decent form and Jordie is one that is. Plus I wouldn’t want to have DMac starting without Jordie as a playmaking option.

    If Clarke doesn’t recover they could start Love at fullback with Jordan and Carter on the wings.

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    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    RD at 8

    ??????

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    @Frank Savea

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    @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    west coast surfing

    If I hear he ducked off down to margarets . . . he's dead to me

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  • BonesB Offline
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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @Bones said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    @pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I’d personally like to see some calculated risk taking with selection.

    Start Tupaea at 12 and bench Jordie. He can come in at business end. Gains some valuable minutes and we get to see what he can do starting.

    Likewise, start Lakai at 7, with RD at 8. Perhaps rest Wally and have Luke J on bench.

    Jordie was the second best player on the pitch. No sure we ever want to bench him. Tupaea has a serious case of hero ball and needs that to be fixed before he gets regular minutes.

    I had to look that up and I'm even more baffled after seeing the supposed meaning.

    As in he’d rather go for glory than putting in a sensible pass or put his team mates into space. He did it a few times on the weekend, numerous people pointed it out, and was a serial offender during SR

    Huh, not something I've noticed. He has a habit of making big plays though.

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    @NTA said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    The west coast is rather large.

    WA is bigger than Texas!

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe II:

    I'd be more worried about the golf courses.

    I'd be more worried about Jaws.

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    It's the one thing in England you don't need to worry about

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    Only change I can see to the backline would be McKenzie starting at 10. Suspect Ioane will come onto the pine in place of Tupaea if there's any concern around Clarke's fitness.

    Alternative, if Clarke is injured, would be sticking to a similar backline that finished the last match: Roigard, McKenzie, Carter, Tupaea, Proctor, Jordan, Barrett. That inspires me a bit more than having Ioane/Reece on one of the wings, and would give Tuapea a deserved second start of the season at 12. Not sure Razor is adventurous enough, however.

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    Be an interesting selection this week. The corresponding fixture last year was diabolical in terms of building for the future: in were TJP, BB, ALB. FFS.
    I'd leave the backs alone. McKenzie in is a big change by itself, and based on last week the rest of the backs deserve another shot outside him.
    Forwards I dunno. I'm kind of resigned to us being dominated in the loose forwards, which is pretty sad. I just don't think we have the squad balance right there. Holland is a must for me, because we can at least ensure good lineout ball.

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