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    kidcalder
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    He has yes
    George Lockhart his S & C coach seems to be getting results

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      Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

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        Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

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        @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

        Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

        That is sizeable, even on a 1.93m frame.

        I'm sure the trainers have it under control but hopefully that extra bulk doesn't make him gas quicker.

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          @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

          Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

          That is sizeable, even on a 1.93m frame.

          I'm sure the trainers have it under control but hopefully that extra bulk doesn't make him gas quicker.

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          @MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

          @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

          Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

          That is sizeable, especially on a 1.93m frame.

          I'm sure the trainers have it under control but hopefully that extra bulk doesn't make him gas quicker.

          It’s been gradual rather than overnight since he hooked up with Lee and Lockhart.

          Under Barry he tended to fight off the back foot a lot more , under Lee there is more of the kronk style , controlling centre ring and planting the front foot to unleash his shots .

          So it’s all part of a plan to be more assertive.

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            @MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

            @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

            Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

            That is sizeable, especially on a 1.93m frame.

            I'm sure the trainers have it under control but hopefully that extra bulk doesn't make him gas quicker.

            It’s been gradual rather than overnight since he hooked up with Lee and Lockhart.

            Under Barry he tended to fight off the back foot a lot more , under Lee there is more of the kronk style , controlling centre ring and planting the front foot to unleash his shots .

            So it’s all part of a plan to be more assertive.

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            @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

            @MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

            @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

            Yeah he is much thicker now ,he is a good 10 kgs heavier than the earlier fighter that first won the title and fought Joshua, expecting to weigh in around the117 kg mark for this fight .

            That is sizeable, especially on a 1.93m frame.

            I'm sure the trainers have it under control but hopefully that extra bulk doesn't make him gas quicker.

            It’s been gradual rather than overnight since he hooked up with Lee and Lockhart.

            Under Barry he tended to fight off the back foot a lot more , under Lee there is more of the kronk style , controlling centre ring and planting the front foot to unleash his shots .

            So it’s all part of a plan to be more assertive.

            It looks like useful muscle mass to me, this fight could be very interesting.
            But I really don't want to see Parker face Usyk.

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              The size is one thing but the major plus with having Lockhart seems to be the science and structure to his conditioning.
              Parker has alluded to when with Barry he over trained in camp due to himself coming into camp unfit and overweight then being thrashed to exhaustion before getting into the ring and discovering he had low energy.
              Lockhart seems to have addressed this and Lee has Parker doing a lot of feints and switching levels which aren't as draining as continuously punching but distract and confuse the opponent enough then parker lands some nice combos to bank the rounds.
              Sitting down on punches is the kronk style and I have noticed Parker throws as many lead rights as he does jab which again is making the opponent over think and tire and that is what I think he will do with Wardley...
              I will be shocked if Parker loses this but hey shocks and upsets are part of boxing

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                    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                    Parker 119kg.

                    Maybe he could stay in the UK after the fight and play number 8 for the ABs wit those dimensions ?

                    Haven't heard much from Wardley before but he's another very likeable fella, can't one of these guys become a trash talking arsehole ?

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                      Yeah no bad guy in this fight Wardley pretty intelligent and respectful dude.
                      The good thing for him he can easily rebuild after a loss to parker...on the other hand a parker loss to wardley is deverstating

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                          kiwiinmelb
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                          Suss stoppage was my initial reaction, but supporting joe there could be emotion in that ,

                          Need time to reevaluate

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                            Yip Def time for revaluation
                            Will take 3 years to rebuild to title shot so with enough $ already made is it worth it Health wise

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                              Suss stoppage was my initial reaction, but supporting joe there could be emotion in that ,

                              Need time to reevaluate

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                              Suss stoppage was my initial reaction, but supporting joe there could be emotion in that ,

                              Need time to reevaluate

                              From online nonNZ comments you are not alone.
                              But what a shame. Joe in good condition with a good trainer.
                              I think it is now too late for him to come back. He has other options and not too injured, apparently. So pretty lucky considering the big men he has faced.

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                                It’s funny , I’m not saying I support the argument but American boxing fans claim non British fighters get waved off. Very quickly when fighting in Britain and British fighters get all the time in the world to recover . Dunno but it’s a theory they believe.

                                The reality is , neither fighter gets near usyk anyway ,

                                But regardless of this result in a styles makes fights sense, I think Wardley will be easier pickings for usyk to dismantle

                                Bad luck Joe , nature of heavyweight boxing , still a warrior, what a chin that man has got .

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                                  Four losses, all to British fighters.

                                  Genuinely upset for him, not sure he can rebuild from here. Only a single loss but pretty devastating all things considered. Really fucks up any chances he might have had to take on Usyk.

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                                    It’s funny , I’m not saying I support the argument but American boxing fans claim non British fighters get waved off. Very quickly when fighting in Britain and British fighters get all the time in the world to recover . Dunno but it’s a theory they believe.

                                    The reality is , neither fighter gets near usyk anyway ,

                                    But regardless of this result in a styles makes fights sense, I think Wardley will be easier pickings for usyk to dismantle

                                    Bad luck Joe , nature of heavyweight boxing , still a warrior, what a chin that man has got .

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                                    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                                    It’s funny , I’m not saying I support the argument but American boxing fans claim non British fighters get waved off. Very quickly when fighting in Britain and British fighters get all the time in the world to recover . Dunno but it’s a theory they believe.

                                    The reality is , neither fighter gets near usyk anyway ,

                                    But regardless of this result in a styles makes fights sense, I think Wardley will be easier pickings for usyk to dismantle

                                    Bad luck Joe , nature of heavyweight boxing , still a warrior, what a chin that man has got .

                                    You're right in regards to both having no chance against Usyk and yes, Wardley gets picked apart easier, but he also has more of a chance of landing something on Usyk than Parker or anyone else for that matter.

                                    A real changing of the guard this result I feel. We're starting to see the new generation of HWs coming through now, with the last generation on their way out.

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                                      sparky
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                                      Absolute shocker for Parker. He was six rounds ahead but couldn't finish the job. That result will cost him millions.

                                      Wardley beating Usak would be a massive upset.

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                                        Nothing wrong in that stoppage for me

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                                          Nothing wrong in that stoppage for me

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

                                          Nothing wrong in that stoppage for me

                                          Seen far worse.

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