All Blacks 2025
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Defence coach might be a better investment
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@MiketheSnow That's Scott Hansen at the moment.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@MiketheSnow That's Scott Hansen at the moment.
No that is Tamati Ellison he is defence coach.
Hansen is backline strategic coaching and planning and also working with the Hbs and First Fives. -
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
Personally I think once you hit 60+ I think most coaches are past their best. Guys like Gatland and Jones are well past their best.
Coaches who played in the pro era with bigger players are probably more prone to CTE etc too. So it may be younger from this time on when coaches reach their best.
The only other viable options were probably Schmidt and Joseph as head coach. Schmidt seemed to rule himself didn't he?
So it was just Joseph. He's a valid option but at the time Robertson was selected there wasn't really a lot of resistance. In hindsight maybe Robertson wasn't the best pick and he kind of bottled it with his jobs for the boys picks.
That said I do think Robertson would have benefited with someone like Cotter in his team and I do think he would make a better forwards coach and selector than Ryan whos a good tight five coach but an abject failure as a loose forward coach.
Is Eddie keen to have a hoon at coaching the ABs ?
Mitch?
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris Scott Hansen is in charge of defence......
Tamati Ellison's role is the contact area in defence.
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@antipodean Ellison answers to Scott Hansen.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean Ellison answers to Scott Hansen.
I think you're missing my point. How is that delineation not confusing to players?
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@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris Scott Hansen is in charge of defence......
Tamati Ellison's role is the contact area in defence.
Nah Scott Hansen is no longer defence coach Ellison stepped up to take it over completely .
And hasn't he done a sterling job!
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris Scott Hansen is in charge of defence......
Tamati Ellison's role is the contact area in defence.
Nah Scott Hansen is no longer defence coach Ellison stepped up to take it over completely .
And hasn't he done a sterling job!
NO
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@antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@antipodean Ellison answers to Scott Hansen.
I think you're missing my point. How is that delineation not confusing to players?
Reminds me of any other bloated corporate where responsibilities are overlapping and it's hard to tell what each person's role is
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So who's coaching what again?
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris Scott Hansen is in charge of defence......
Tamati Ellison's role is the contact area in defence.
WTAF?
Do they have a bootlace-tying coach as well?
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@African-Monkey 1-5 Ryan, 6-8 Razor, 9-10 Hansen, 12-13 Holland, 11,14,15 Rangi
don't ya remember?
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2025:
Tamati Ellison's role is the contact area in defence.
So not the tiddlywinks part.
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@restofit said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey 1-5 Ryan, 6-8 Razor, 9-10 Hansen, 12-13 Holland, 11,14,15 Rangi
don't ya remember?
Oh yeah....duh!
What's former club slut Tamati Ellison's role again? Back 3 collision contact defence?
