Scotland v All Blacks
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@reprobate said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@Bones said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Yeah lots of posters seem to think he's a better shot at blindside, seemingly due to size? For this reason I was purposely noting his involvement on Saturday and he certainly didn't look outsized.
Well, I think the standout 6 in Super rugby, particularly in the finals, was Blackadder. And despite the fern's collective wisdom being that he's Robertson's favourite and Robertson is biased towards Crusaders, he was dropped. From that I think it is a safe assumption that Robertson has decided he needs size at 6 (and thinks midgets elsewhere is fine).
At blindside we have Parker who is not setting the world on fire, Finau who they won't play, and they've been trying to shoe-horn Vaai in... so it seems reasonable that Beehre could make a go of 6, given that (current injury situation notwithstanding) the field there is much weaker than at lock, and that of the lock candidates he would seem to be the guy most suited to shifting to 6?Yeah but Blackadder is 118kg apparently ( possibly measured with weights in his pockets like Wallace Sititi )
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@scribe said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Ardie to midfield at some point, to solve the loosie imbalance? It’s good enough for England who are playing Ben Earl In the midfield for parts of games. They’re also toying with playing Henry Pollock on the wing, I read.
Ardie seems to like wing as well.
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@reprobate said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@Bones said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
Yeah lots of posters seem to think he's a better shot at blindside, seemingly due to size? For this reason I was purposely noting his involvement on Saturday and he certainly didn't look outsized.
Well, I think the standout 6 in Super rugby, particularly in the finals, was Blackadder. And despite the fern's collective wisdom being that he's Robertson's favourite and Robertson is biased towards Crusaders, he was dropped. From that I think it is a safe assumption that Robertson has decided he needs size at 6 (and thinks midgets elsewhere is fine).
At blindside we have Parker who is not setting the world on fire, Finau who they won't play, and they've been trying to shoe-horn Vaai in... so it seems reasonable that Beehre could make a go of 6, given that (current injury situation notwithstanding) the field there is much weaker than at lock, and that of the lock candidates he would seem to be the guy most suited to shifting to 6?I don't mind your eventual conclusion at all but one additional premise you might not have considered for Blackadder isn't just that he isn't particularly big (or fast) at international level but that his overriding speciality seems to be picking up injuries.
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@reprobate I'm not convinced on Razor having an issue with size, especially using Blackadder being dropped as the evidence.
I was just saying people see Beehre as too small for lock, which I've never quite understood and find even harder to understand after the weekend up against the big bad saffas.
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He’s not Brodie or Whitelock height but he’s a genuine 6’6 and decent athleticism. I would not be concerned about him being at lock.
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@Bones Josh Beehre being too small at 198cm & 118kg at 23 years is news to me, he's already quite a bit heavier than Darry & Lord who are both older, being over 198cm isn't so important (Maro Itoje is 197cm) it's more about arm reach and jumping height isn't it?
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@restofit said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@Bones Josh Beehre being too small at 198cm & 118kg at 23 years is news to me, he's already quite a bit heavier than Darry & Lord who are both older, being over 198cm isn't so important (Maro Itoje is 197cm) it's more about arm reach and jumping height isn't it?
Source? Wikipedia weights??
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@Frank said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@restofit said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@Bones Josh Beehre being too small at 198cm & 118kg at 23 years is news to me, he's already quite a bit heavier than Darry & Lord who are both older, being over 198cm isn't so important (Maro Itoje is 197cm) it's more about arm reach and jumping height isn't it?
Source? Wikipedia weights??
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@restofit said in Scotland Vs All Blacks, 8th November 2025:
@Bones Josh Beehre being too small at 198cm & 118kg at 23 years is news to me, he's already quite a bit heavier than Darry & Lord who are both older, being over 198cm isn't so important (Maro Itoje is 197cm) it's more about arm reach and jumping height isn't it?
We need a tighthead lock, so once 6’ 6” it’s more about bulk. Early 120 kegs ideal.
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The HP version says Bower, Darry, Jacobson, Ioane, and Love come into the 23.
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My two cents. QT/RI/Big Lester will be centre pairing with one of the latter 2 on the bench. No other changes from 9-15
Forwards the same as last week with Lord partnering Dutch. Maybe Wallace instead of Lakai or Parker.
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Sometimes it feels like a catch 22 ,
We complain our bench lacks impact , then we get some guys who do provide impact , then we want them to start and go back to a bench with less impact .
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I think this is an exciting time following the All Blacks. Plenty of young players coming through showing promise.
We have had plenty of stale conservative selections over the last 5 years but things are changing.
Also like a good story. QT's good form after that dreadful injury and long recovery warms the heart.
Heading to Scotland in 36 hours should be good. -
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