Red Cards & HIA

[taniwharugby]

@pakman it isnt broken?

The ref and TMO determined that a head contact significant enough for a review and subsequent red card had occurred, surely that is enough to warrant an HIA for the recipient of the head contact?

The whole process needs a review (head contact sanctions, HIAs) the way it is, it is a blight on the game and undermining both player safety and rugbys long term future with the inconsistencies.

[Bovidae]

It should be mandatory that any player receiving direct head contact should get an HIA. That should be the responsibility of the independent match day doctor, not just relying on the smart mouthguard for a decision.

[gt12]

Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got em.

Here is Gregor Paul's - the RC deserved to be rescinded and should never have been a penalty:

[mohikamo]

@gt12

A highly trained game officiator thought the exact opposite.
And another officiating expert agrees with Paul.

Just another in a long line of fuckin' embarrassments for WR (last two RWCs decided by RCs) which should lead to meaningful changes.
But probably wont.
Thought we left the amateurish BS behind 30 years ago.

And this occured in a match between the 2nd and 3rd ranked teams in the world, in a game that was meant to showcase the sport in the largest sports market in the world.

[gt12]

@mohikamo

I didn't mind some of his solutions (e.g., all referees for all club competitions are run by a single refereeing boss) even if I didn't think they were that realistic.

He also argued that we shouldn't have neutral refs as the idea is that the best ref in the world should get the premier games. That's stupid. There will be 5 odd games this week, so it's easy enough to split up the premier refs so that they aren't reffing their own country.

[Smuts]

The difficulty in reffing the head contact protocol consistently is a feature and not a bug.

It gives losing fans something to whinge about AND a convenient excuse for their team’s loss. Those benefits grow exponentially when their team benefits from a dodgy red card. Now they can claim the moral high ground and continue to ~~whinge about ~~ analyze the earlier reds their team copped in the no nonsense, deeply rational, nuanced and ethical fashion for which they are known throughout the rugby playing world.

[Paul Dubois]

Just read Beauden Barrett's testimony to the disciplinary panel - superb sportsmanship - this is why we love the (real) beautiful game !

[mohikamo]

I watch a lot of rugby league.
They have similar issues, but the officiating operates in a different manner.

Nelson Asofa-Solomona just about made himself unemployable for a series of similar tackles to the one on the weekend.
I dont think he was actually sent off this year, but sin binned and reported several times.

Referee just penalised and/or binned him for each incident, reporting him to the review panel each time.
Each game as a spectacle was not overly affected.
The incident went under the microscope at the review, and suspension followed.
That is a more practical way of officiating.

The individual player was unable to adjust his technique, and put himself out on the street.

And there is no interweb thread discussing the inconsistent officiating of red cards.

[canefan]

@mohikamo perhaps this is the way, because on the spot punishments clearly don't appear to be working because of the inconsistency and interpretation. Hit them where it hurts, in the pocket and progressively damaging their careers

[MiketheSnow]

[mohikamo]

@MiketheSnow

THEY ALWAYS F'N COCK IT UP!

[nostrildamus]

@MiketheSnow said in Red Cards & HIA:

John Kirwan seems to be turning into Carl Fredricksen from the movie Up.