Scotland v All Blacks
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I was having a spirited exchange with a mate of mine about BB. His counterargument to my assessment that BB isn't up to it anymore was "we won and he didn't make any mistakes.". This guy knows rugby, and yet that's his view (and BB did make errors anyway). Is that how low we are happy to set the bar these days? I can't reconcile how anyone who knows anything about rugby can go into bat for BB anymore.
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@nzzp said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@ACT-Crusader said in Scotland v All Blacks:
The story I heard was that last year Love and Papali’i were rooming together and after Dalton head butt Razor, Love was seen in the corner of the room taking video footage. Fast forward to the French series this year and after Love questioned a training move, he remembered the words of his 2024 roomie, “just hit them between the eyes”, Love lined up Hansen with a head butt.
well I heard that Love wound up kidnapping Hansen in a case of mistaken identity, and they hushed it up and blamed it on Dalton. And that's why Dalts isn't in the squad any more.
You’re making stuff up.
But wait till I tell you about the leaked phone call between Ryan and Sotutu….
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@ACT-Crusader said in Scotland v All Blacks:
the leaked phone call between Ryan and Sotutu….
nah, you got that wrong sorry. Check your sauce. It was a Teams call that the transcript accidentally got forwarded to Robinson. Ya think it's a coincidence he stood down?
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@canefan said in Scotland v All Blacks:
I was having a spirited exchange with a mate of mine about BB. His counterargument to my assessment that BB isn't up to it anymore was "we won and he didn't make any mistakes.". This guy knows rugby, and yet that's his view (and BB did make errors anyway). I can't reconcile how anyone who knows anything about rugby can go into bat for BB anymore
Guess that would suggest that you don't think any of the coaches etc know anything about rugby?
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@Dan54 said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@canefan said in Scotland v All Blacks:
I was having a spirited exchange with a mate of mine about BB. His counterargument to my assessment that BB isn't up to it anymore was "we won and he didn't make any mistakes.". This guy knows rugby, and yet that's his view (and BB did make errors anyway). I can't reconcile how anyone who knows anything about rugby can go into bat for BB anymore
Guess that would suggest that you don't think any of the coaches etc know anything about rugby?
Do you ever read my posts Dan?
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@nostrildamus Don’t think he’s been watching much the past 5 years
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I thought at half time that finally we were going to get a statement performance under Robertson.
Then the Scots came back at us, aided and abetted by our terrible discipline and a woeful performance under the high ball.
But we still had the skill, athleticism, fitness and determination to seal the win. It was a performance for the ages from Damian McKenzie off the bench.
It feels to be that despite the injuries the forwards are tracking well (only really the overhyped Ardie Savea is underperforming), but the backline is a bit of a mess and probably will be until we sort out the backline coaching issue.
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@taniwharugby said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@KiwiMurph problem is, that 12-13 axis is huge defensively and both LF and QT still need alot of work there, which is ironic given Ioanes strength is his defence and he seems well in the outer.
Unfortunately, he's been a bit bland offensively. But, I'd still be inclined to play him vs England. They've kind on moved Rieko aside for Proctor, aside for Tupaea, aside for Leicester at 13 - but, I'm doubtful we're at the best option right now in this musical chairs.
Just had a quick look to see Jack Goodhue turned 30 in June. Should've been entering his prime.
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@game_film said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@nostrildamus Don’t think he’s been watching much the past 5 years
sorry I missed the context here...he is?
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@nzzp said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@Chris-B said in Scotland v All Blacks:
Jack Goodhue turned 30 in June. Should've been entering his prime.
that wellington game against the Boks he looke elite. Defensively monstrous. But ... injuries and he has not kicked on.
Yeah - he coulda, woulda, shoulda been the next Conrad. Lacked a yard of pace, but otherwise a complete centre. Then injuries lost him another couple of yards and he was done.
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@nostrildamus Gregor Paul. He’s writing about the ABs being spooked beyond their normal selves but we’ve been accustomed to seeing them in games like these many times lately.
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@game_film said in Scotland v All Blacks:
@nostrildamus Gregor Paul. He’s writing about the ABs being spooked beyond their normal selves but we’ve been accustomed to seeing them in games like these many times lately.
I'm getting less and less impressed by his analyses...
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@sparky said in Scotland v All Blacks:
I thought at half time that finally we were going to get a statement performance under Robertson.
This was an opportunity to play our own game, against a team that was going to let us do that.
At half time this should have gone 50/50 at worst. Like a final score of 40 to 20; as the Scots regained some parity.
Instead the Scots won the second half easily.
So much for playing our own game, and making a statement performance.Finished well though, always like that.
Showing a bit of mental strength, for the seond week in row. -
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Quote from Tom English on the BBC, sums it up quite well from a Scottish perspective.
Scotland could and should have won. They looked immortality in the eye and said "not today", as if 120 years isn't long enough to wait. -
@gt12 said in Scotland v All Blacks:
It's bad if we are talking about beating up the Scots as being a potential statement performance.
Scotland aren't a bad side at all. On a par with Los Pumas for me. Actually player for player I rate their backline as better than ours.
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@sparky said in Scotland v All Blacks:
How many bad games can Ardie Savea and Beauden Barrett keep having in Black?
I can't remember any of our players in the past escaping scrutiny for such consistently disappointing performances.
Buck was unbeaten as captain and got dropped IIRC. How times have changed
