Exodus
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Agree. It’s a risky strategy. Mounga sounds like he has been playing well in Japan - his team won the competition. He will be 33 by the end of RWC27 - same as Carter was. Is Razor hoping history repeats or is this blind coaching loyalty dating back to Crusader successes?
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@taniwharugby said in Exodus:
@canefan so who would our #5 be right now then...Reihana?
At least Beaver had played test rugby.
Thats the problem when no one other than BB gets a sniff
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@reprobate said in Exodus:
You truly believe that the coaches are holding the All Blacks back to engineer a scenario where a returning player can therefore make them look better for 1/3rd of the World Cup cycle?
I think Robertson has totally made his mind up that Mounga is the guy, and he is trying to take a conservative treading water approach using the most experienced guy available until then. I don't think he is trying to lose, but I do think he is completely risk averse in that position because he thinks he has a solution coming and he's making a terribly wrong call.
And I think that's shit. Both for now (because McKenzie is already better), in terms of contingency should Mounga get injured (because BB will be worse still by the WC and we aren't developing other options), and in terms of what happens to the ABs post-WC when Mounga buggers off again.Is that what we want from our AB coach? I can't imagine Ted back in the day hanging his hat on waiting for some player to return.
I don't think anyone expected this from Razor as a coach.
Clearly the final 25 minutes is more important than the first 65...
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"over-hyped little Cantab" was one of the terms.
@reprobate said in Exodus:
Mounga was the starting 10. It's the most influential position on the field. Of course he's a big loss
Mo'unga is 70% win rate as a starter for ABs.
Overall vs Top 6: 17/28 (61%)
Without Australia: 9/18 (50%)
vs NH: 2/6 (33%)Opponent Record
Argentina 4-2
South Africa 3-3
Australia 8-1-1
Ireland 2-0
France 0-2
England 0-1-1Fair stats - and Mo'unga was by no means perfect, but the big problem I remembered was that him and BB played together. The dual playmaker strategy used then is not commonly employed anymore for good reason.
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"over-hyped little Cantab" was one of the terms.
@reprobate said in Exodus:
Mounga was the starting 10. It's the most influential position on the field. Of course he's a big loss
Mo'unga is 70% win rate as a starter for ABs.
Overall vs Top 6: 17/28 (61%)
Without Australia: 9/18 (50%)
vs NH: 2/6 (33%)Opponent Record
Argentina 4-2
South Africa 3-3
Australia 8-1-1
Ireland 2-0
France 0-2
England 0-1-1Fair stats - and Mo'unga was by no means perfect, but the big problem I remembered was that him and BB played together. The dual playmaker strategy used then is not commonly employed anymore for good reason.
And yet, the current team looks 10 times better when we have Dmac and Barrett together.
if you go back to 2018, we used Dmac and Barrett together plenty and they were excellent. The issue is that things started going wrong when we tried to do the same with Mo'unga and Barrett.
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@gt12 I think strategically teams use dual playmakers now differently to a few years ago. Particularly around the time of the 2019 RWC, the trend was to play with a left and a right, a bit like they did in league, but it just meant nobody controlled the game.
When Barrett and DMac play together currently, Barrett is generally still the primary playmaker, but DMac will occasionally inject off the same side. It's quite different.
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Confirmed that Ross Filipo will be an assistant coach at the Hanazono Kintetsu Liners. Even though they are a Div 2 club, the money is much greater than what he was earning in NZ. Akira Ioane and now Peter Umaga-Jensen are there.
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James O’Reilly heading to France. Not sure who he’s signed with though.
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@hikastags said in Exodus:
King Maxwell from last years NZ U20 was playing D3 in Japan for the Water Gush. Not sure if he's still there.
He was in one of the Ignite7s teams (Surge) that played earlier this month. He has speed so would be a good option for the AB7s.
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@Canes4life said in Exodus:
James O’Reilly heading to France. Not sure who he’s signed with though.
I guess it's Vannes which needs a hooker because two of their hookers have suffered long term injuries.
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