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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

    Robertson, who is contracted to NZ Rugby through to the 2027 World Cup, is likely to be asked tough questions from the board when he returns Down Under.

    If appointing Robertson/undermining Foster was a board decision, rather than a Mark Robinson solo decision, I wouldn't count on it.

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    @Tim said in All Blacks 2025:

    In 2004, Henry took over an ABs team with a lot of psychological hang-ups.

    Struggled in SA, went to NH and destroyed France. Best game I have attended in person.

    This was a game in which we didn't have better players overall, but we out coached them easily. We need to move on from these dunces, and have smart coaches now

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    @Tim

    Best Haka ever.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    Money aside, I think this is a little different to Foster. Possibly easier to just sweep house then trying to make this regime work.

    Because I am a nice guy, I have been holding off upon making a post about you. You were such a Scott Robertson sycophant that you made a post saying that Ian Foster shouldn't be the AB coach because he was a Christian.

    You were so ridiculed that you deleted your account and made a new one.

    Now your new thing is to post that Caleb Clarke should be dropped because he plays for the Blues. You are absolute dumb garbage.

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    @Tim Some quite crazy (untrue) accusations here. Have you quoted the wrong thing?

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    @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby and why havnt the coaches improve to parts that need working on

    I think we all agree that the ABs coaches aren’t exactly pulling their weight right now

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Tim Some quite crazy (untrue) accusations here. Have you quoted the wrong thing?

    Absolutely true. Same IP addresses etc. You posted bullshit about Foster, and its from the same IP etc that you say that there is no alterative other than supporting Robertson

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    @Tim I was a Scott Robertson fan yep and have changed my mind because I’ve seen evidence which has made me change my opinion . This is a forum people have opinions and disagree, it isn’t exactly parliament.

    I changed my account name not long after I started using this forum, yep, never deleted my account, and it wasn’t down to anything other than wanting a slightly different name hence why it is basically the same.

    The rest of that? Absolute horseshit mate hope you enjoy your day.

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    France sending their C team may have just saved Razor's arse. I think they would have beaten us with their top team and exposed this team even further. 5-6 losses and he wouldn't have survived past this year. With 3 losses this season, the gutless NZR will most likely choose to retain him. A tough couple of years coming up.

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    I dont like it but Robertson would stay even if we lost to Wales next week. He's not remotely at risk at the moment.

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    I think it is fair to say that we have gone nowhere since last year. And last year was very disappointing.
    Our tactics remain poor.
    Our abilities on both sides of the contested kick remain really poor.
    Our scrum may have got worse.
    Our lineout is good, primary targets are better with Holland coming through, but it seems more dependent on Taylor than ever, and we still lack a genuine target in the loosies.
    The loosies continue to be outplayed by all comers (or get parity at best) which is quite confronting when we've had the luxury of being dominant in the loose for about 40 years. We've gone from not enough power to not enough workrate.
    Our backline as a unit is nothing short of terrible. We can't attack, and...
    Our defence is shithouse and disorganised.
    There is no composure. There is nothing clinical or ruthless. We make way too many errors.
    You could make a reasonable case that the biggest improvement this year for the ABs, is that Jordie Barrett came back from Ireland a better player i.e. someone else's coaching.

    On the upside, everyone new who has come in (mostly due to injury) has shown a degree of potential.

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    @akan004 its just a continuation of the struggles we have had since 2019, a good chunk of the blame can sit with NZR as well.

    They have sat on thier hands allowing things to fester, not addressing shit at the lower levels, thats without looking at the appointment process and subsequent assistants.

    Then we get to selections, game plans...

    SHIT.SHOW undersells it.

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    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    You could make a reasonable case that the biggest improvement this year for the ABs, is that Jordie Barrett came back from Ireland a better player i.e. someone else's coaching.

    except after he got back into our environment, he regressed again.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

    You could make a reasonable case that the biggest improvement this year for the ABs, is that Jordie Barrett came back from Ireland a better player i.e. someone else's coaching.

    except after he got back into our environment, he regressed again.

    He did, the notable exception being a spike in form when (broken record) BB went off injured.

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    @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

    France sending their C team may have just saved Razor's arse. I think they would have beaten us with their top team and exposed this team even further. 5-6 losses and he wouldn't have survived past this year. With 3 losses this season, the gutless NZR will most likely choose to retain him. A tough couple of years coming up.

    I feel like they would have at least taken 1 test off us if they didn't bottle it against us.

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    The best thing Robertson can do is clear house with the leadership team and his assistant coaches. If that doesn’t work, he goes. Seems like only sensible way forward

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    Weird how Lio Willie was not in serious contention for selection after Wellington.

    Must have one of the highest win percentages in NZ rugby this season when on the pitch, 25 wins from 29 matches plus a win for the A team in Bath.

    Doubt a good player is starting so many games and ending up on the winning team by coincidence.

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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Weird how Lio Willie was not in serious contention for selection after Wellington.

    Must have one of the highest win percentages in NZ rugby this season when on the pitch, 25 wins from 29 matches plus a win for the A team in Bath.

    Doubt a good player is starting so many games and ending up on the winning team by coincidence.

    Was the best forward in the 2nd best NPC team, was one of the best, if not the best, forward in the super rugby winning team. Comprehensively out played his chiefs counter parts in the super rugby final. Definitely deserved more game time

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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Weird how Lio Willie was not in serious contention for selection after Wellington.

    Must have one of the highest win percentages in NZ rugby this season when on the pitch, 25 wins from 29 matches plus a win for the A team in Bath.

    Doubt a good player is starting so many games and ending up on the winning team by coincidence.

    He's a good player for sure, but what would he change? He's an excellent medium-small number 8, and so is Lakai.

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    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Weird how Lio Willie was not in serious contention for selection after Wellington.

    Must have one of the highest win percentages in NZ rugby this season when on the pitch, 25 wins from 29 matches plus a win for the A team in Bath.

    Doubt a good player is starting so many games and ending up on the winning team by coincidence.

    Another journeyman tbh. Looked average against France C.

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