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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    Nothing to suggest Robertson hasn't got the people he wanted from the start, but with the shambles that is NZR, who knows?

    Yes there is, he wanted Tony Brown. You can find sources online.

    If we wanted Tony Brown, they should have chosen Jamie Joseph. The fact that Brown went to SA probably says a lot about how other coaches - outside the Crusaders - feel about working with Razor.

    My concern is who they could get to come in who would actually be better than what we have...

    It's well known that Razor rejected any other role than Head Coach with his team.

    Although I believe we need new assistants and we do need change, I'm not sure that we should be looking to change over the assistants - will a new attack coach with no international experience be any better amongst this team than what we have?

    The correct strategic choice for the new CEO of NZRU is to do a complete evaluation of the current team.

    My recall is Tony Brown believed accepting would not be loyal to Joseph, don't know what he actually thought of Razor et al.
    But then he went to work for the Boks...

    Tony Brown and Joe Scmidt. have both actively sought to hurt NZ rugby and the All Blacks by working to get high level opponents to the level they can beat us when their were roles on offer in NZ rugby. Can't understand why so many NZ rugby fans have any respect for this. They are not they answer.

    Vern Cotter like Graham Henry only coached also rans who where no real threat to the All Blacks, same with Jamie Joseph. These are the guys we should be looking to not a couple of mercenaries who sell out to the highest bidder.

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    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

    This is from 2024... but what a ridiculously large management team

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    Ceri Evans, Nic Gil and Adam Hay jobs should also be under the microscope

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    Nogusta
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    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

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    brodean
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    @tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:

    @hikastags said in All Blacks 2025:

    This is from 2024... but what a ridiculously large management team

    fc793e2c-1517-4855-be57-d47a76837ce9-image.png

    Ceri Evans, Nic Gil and Adam Hay jobs should also be under the microscope

    Based on the selections that have been happening the Performance Analyst are also questionable.

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    I suspect that next year form of senior or highly rated players will be key factors. e.g. Lomax and Williams in form and starting would be of great benefit to us. Scott Barrett might need to reinvent himself as a bench option, and Vaai needs to learn how to tackle again. Savea isn't a 7 and needs to switch back to 8 or the bench. How about 6-2 bench split?

    We don't have a centre who can defend and attack well at the moment, so Tupaea developing or Ioane returning to form could be critical. Reserve halfback is wide open. Then there's fullback, not to mention 10 ...

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    brodean
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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Whoa! Any word on what happened? PM's welcome!

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    @Nogusta has the good oil on players connected to the Blues.

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    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    OK let me rephrase that.
    He won't play for the ABs AGAIN whilst Robertson is coach.
    No need to be a fwit

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    canefan
    replied to Nogusta last edited by
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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    OK let me rephrase that.
    He won't play for the ABs AGAIN whilst Robertson is coach.
    No need to be a fwit

    Players choosing not to play for the ABs? End the madness and fire the surfing chancer immediately!

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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    OK let me rephrase that.
    He won't play for the ABs AGAIN whilst Robertson is coach.
    No need to be a fwit

    And the entire fern slides into Nogusta’s PMs.

    As a rule, you’ve had the best info on Blues / Auckland (and recently Landers), so this is likely a very good piece of info.

    It raises a thousand question of course…

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    replied to Nogusta last edited by
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    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Is this connected to Robertson's treatment of Sotutu, their was a lot of talk that he and Ryan leaked his non-selection before the 2024 final, which seemed rather spiteful of them.

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    brodean
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    @brodean there's kinda evidence at present time, Lio-Willie replaced Finau on tour yet why didn't Dalton Replace Jacobson?

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    MiketheSnow
    replied to tubbyj last edited by
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    @tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    Nothing to suggest Robertson hasn't got the people he wanted from the start, but with the shambles that is NZR, who knows?

    Yes there is, he wanted Tony Brown. You can find sources online.

    If we wanted Tony Brown, they should have chosen Jamie Joseph. The fact that Brown went to SA probably says a lot about how other coaches - outside the Crusaders - feel about working with Razor.

    My concern is who they could get to come in who would actually be better than what we have...

    It's well known that Razor rejected any other role than Head Coach with his team.

    Although I believe we need new assistants and we do need change, I'm not sure that we should be looking to change over the assistants - will a new attack coach with no international experience be any better amongst this team than what we have?

    The correct strategic choice for the new CEO of NZRU is to do a complete evaluation of the current team.

    My recall is Tony Brown believed accepting would not be loyal to Joseph, don't know what he actually thought of Razor et al.
    But then he went to work for the Boks...

    Tony Brown and Joe Scmidt. have both actively sought to hurt NZ rugby and the All Blacks by working to get high level opponents to the level they can beat us when their were roles on offer in NZ rugby. Can't understand why so many NZ rugby fans have any respect for this. They are not they answer.

    Vern Cotter like Graham Henry only coached also rans who where no real threat to the All Blacks, same with Jamie Joseph. These are the guys we should be looking to not a couple of mercenaries who sell out to the highest bidder.

    That’s absolute fucking horseshit

    That’s on NZRFU not the individuals

    The best aspire to play for the best teams, coach the best teams, beat the best teams, and be the best

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    canefan
    replied to Grooter last edited by
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    @Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean there's kinda evidence at present time, Lio-Willie replaced Finau on tour yet why didn't Dalton Replace Jacobson?

    So the Blues back row dominates their way to a SR title and none of them make the ABs? Now the main complaint about our loosies is they are small and not physically imposing 🙄🤦🤷

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    antipodean
    replied to gt12 last edited by
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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Nogusta said in All Blacks 2025:

    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    Net impacts per 80 minutes
    ( Postive impacts minus negative impacts )
    11.42 Dalton Papali'i

    A productive 15 minutes for Papali’i - 4 carries for 19 metres, 1 defender beaten, 1 tackle (it was deemed dominant), 2 passes, 1 lineout win, 0 turnovers won or lost,

    DP will not play for the ABs as long as Robertson is coach.
    DPs decision.

    Wtf are you talking about? He came in and played at the start of the year when the opportunity was provided. He's not being selected by Robertson.

    OK let me rephrase that.
    He won't play for the ABs AGAIN whilst Robertson is coach.
    No need to be a fwit

    And the entire fern slides into Nogusta’s PMs.

    As a rule, you’ve had the best info on Blues / Auckland (and recently Landers), so this is likely a very good piece of info.

    It raises a thousand question of course…

    Given it's come from @Nogusta I'm prepared to entertain the statement.

    Because if we're honest it sits within the broader observation that it's not a happy squad.

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