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All Blacks 2025

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  • antipodeanA antipodean

    @Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:

    I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.

    That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.

    And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.

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    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:

    I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.

    That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.

    And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.

    ALB? Christie? Reece? Clearly their definition of impact is different from mine....

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      6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced

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      @rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:

      6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced

      Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.

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      • canefanC canefan

        No TSF thread is safe from pedantry

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        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

        No TSF thread is safe from pedantry

        "."

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          @rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:

          6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced

          Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.

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          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

          Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.

          Ardie Seagull it is then. At least he has the potential to swoop in at the last minute and steal all the chips.

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          • sparkyS sparky

            Negatives (these are going to be longer):

            We got humped royally by the Boks.
            We got humped royally by the Poms.
            Argentina give us a bit of a kicking.
            We weren't convincing once. Our best performance all year was Perth and was a 7/10.
            We don't look like a side that will challenge at the next World Cup.
            We didn't win the Rugby Chmapionship.
            We didn't do the Grand Slam.
            Our defence is appalling.
            Our captain has minimal influence.
            We've started an aging and poor First Five for most of the year.
            We're terrible in the air.
            Our attacking structure isn't great.
            Our defensive structure is poor.
            Our discipline is terrible.
            Ardie Savea has become a one or two miracle plays a game player.
            Cortes Ratima isn't up to it.
            The Simon Parker experiment didn't work.
            Nor did the Billy Proctor one.
            We didn't develop a new First Five.
            Ruben Love wasn't given enough gametime.
            Our best 7, Dalton Papalii, has been out of the squad for most of the year.
            We go missing for large parts of games.

            In a word, unsatisfactory.

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            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            Negatives (these are going to be longer):

            We weren't convincing once. Our best performance all year was Perth and was a 7/10.
            We've started an aging and poor First Five for most of the year.

            Ah Perth, where our midfield suddenly looked good for a week. Fuck knows what was different about that game eh.

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            • canefanC canefan

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:

              I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.

              That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.

              And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.

              ALB? Christie? Reece? Clearly their definition of impact is different from mine....

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:

              I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.

              That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.

              And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.

              ALB? Christie? Reece? Clearly their definition of impact is different from mine....

              It is auite frustrating we haven't developed an understanding of using the bench as a means to lift tempo. Instead generally taking an old fashioned next man up. What if someone gets injured apporach.

              It is nuts that we are picking guys like Reece, ALB, Christie etc as bench players. They are starters and starters only.

              I'm really keen to see Super teams and the ABs take an approach to benches that it is about finiding a best fit to make a 30 minute difference.

              Fakatava around the rucks, quick powerful loosies, potentially shorter locks who can act as a fourth loosie, nippy and explosive outside backs.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                No TSF thread is safe from pedantry

                "."

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                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                No TSF thread is safe from pedantry

                "."

                Touche

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.

                  Ardie Seagull it is then. At least he has the potential to swoop in at the last minute and steal all the chips.

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                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Can see why we continue to struggle if that seagull is our best player.

                  Ardie Seagull it is then. At least he has the potential to swoop in at the last minute and steal all the chips.

                  I'll go with that.

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                  • JetJ Jet

                    @rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:

                    6/10 for me this year. Best win of the season against SA. Worst defeat against. Ardie best player. Forwards good too great, backs average 2nd year in a row a backs coach has been replaced

                    Roigard (even in limited game time), Jordie or Holland for me.

                    Most of the rest were trash.

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                    @Jet Jordan had great season individually and Roigards our most influential player but as a collective the backs never really functioned & the forwards were good as a unit but Ardie was the standout individual forward

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                      @Jet Jordan had great season individually and Roigards our most influential player but as a collective the backs never really functioned & the forwards were good as a unit but Ardie was the standout individual forward

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                      @rewa267 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Jet Jordan had great season individually and Roigards our most influential player but as a collective the backs never really functioned & the forwards were good as a unit but Ardie was the standout individual forward

                      The word we are missing is "cohesion"

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Over to you Mr Kirk.

                        Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?

                        What do you expect Kirk to do?

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                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Over to you Mr Kirk.

                        Do what needs to be done, or are you a waste of a salary too?

                        What do you expect Kirk to do?

                        Hopefully he's not as emotional as all the menopausal women on here.

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                          Nothing will happen to any great extent,Jason Holland will be replaced.
                          A few players will be moved on that will be it.

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                            Screenshot_20251123_121612_Chrome.jpg

                            Mark Robinson standing behind a wheelie bin as he presents the WR breakthrough trophy to Fabian Holland seems like an apt metaphor for his time as CEO.

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                            • SmudgeS Smudge

                              Screenshot_20251123_121612_Chrome.jpg

                              Mark Robinson standing behind a wheelie bin as he presents the WR breakthrough trophy to Fabian Holland seems like an apt metaphor for his time as CEO.

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                              @Smudge said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Screenshot_20251123_121612_Chrome.jpg

                              Mark Robinson standing behind in a wheelie bin as he presents the WR breakthrough trophy to Fabian Holland seems like an apt metaphor for his time as CEO.

                              Better 💩

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                                Is this the most points the ABs ever conceded in a calendar year? I asked two AI units and they gave different answers ... so who knows.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  Is this the most points the ABs ever conceded in a calendar year? I asked two AI units and they gave different answers ... so who knows.

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                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Is this the most points the ABs ever conceded in a calendar year? I asked two AI units and they gave different answers ... so who knows.

                                  I don't remember feeling this bad about our performance over a season since 1998....

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:

                                    I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.

                                    That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.

                                    And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.

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                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Dan54 said in Wales v All Blacks:

                                    I don't get the Christie hate we get on here, I think he is ok.

                                    That alone disqualifies you from commenting Dan. He's garbage for all the reasons I've been laying out for years.

                                    And that is a damning indictment on the coaches when Ratima is preferred over him. Just once I'd like to see a journalist ask why Fakatava is below them in the picking order.

                                    Ok, so if I don't follow your thoughts, I not supposed to comment huh?
                                    One way of being right on a forum I suppose, either agree with you or you are disqualified from making a comment.

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                                      Were you not saying on the other thread that people are not allowed to post what they heard from an old school mate of Reuben Love? Sounds like you are happy to have comments disqualified if you don't agree with them.

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                                      • T tubbyj

                                        Were you not saying on the other thread that people are not allowed to post what they heard from an old school mate of Reuben Love? Sounds like you are happy to have comments disqualified if you don't agree with them.

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                                        @tubbyj said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Were you not saying on the other thread that people are not allowed to post what they heard from an old school mate of Reuben Love? Sounds like you are happy to have comments disqualified if you don't agree with them.

                                        https://media.tenor.com/PY4uJ0NkywQAAAA1/the-goon-dodgeball.webp

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                                          If Kirk is to have any influence, he can't be doing that from Sydney. I haven't seen any reports saying he will be moving back to NZ.

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