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What an absolute fucking disgrace not to pick him in 2024. The best player in the country that season. There's not a single loose forward who deserved selection more, he outplayed all of them except Blackadder who was injured all year and Savea who was swanning around in Japan and came back mediocre.
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@sparky 100% on your coms especially when we have seen the likes of Samipeni Finau given countless opportunites , i know he plays a different position but it does bring into question what pictures forward mystro Jason Ryan is looking at
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Countless? He's played 12 tests in 3 seasons. Started 6 of those.
And in one he got knocked out very earlySotutu has 14 appearances.
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@mariner4life said in Exodus:
Countless? He's played 12 tests in 3 seasons. Started 6 of those.
And in one he got knocked out very earlySotutu has 14 appearances.
Yeah, well a lot of us can't count beyond 10.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@mariner4life said in Exodus:
Countless? He's played 12 tests in 3 seasons. Started 6 of those.
And in one he got knocked out very earlySotutu has 14 appearances.
Yeah, well a lot of us can't count beyond 10.
Certainly not without excel
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@mariner4life said in Exodus:
@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@mariner4life said in Exodus:
Countless? He's played 12 tests in 3 seasons. Started 6 of those.
And in one he got knocked out very earlySotutu has 14 appearances.
Yeah, well a lot of us can't count beyond 10.
Certainly not without excel
Certainly not without taking shoes off or wearing open toed sandals.
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@Steven-Harris said in Exodus:
@sparky 100% on your coms especially when we have seen the likes of Samipeni Finau given countless opportunites , i know he plays a different position but it does bring into question what pictures forward mystro Jason Ryan is looking at
If Ryan had a major hand in blocking Sotutu he can fuck off with the rest of them. At a time we are lamenting a lack of size and ability to go forward, we let this guy go, and still in his prime. Good luck to him, he re-signed in the hope of playing for the ABs, now he has resigned himself to playing in white instead
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@Steven-Harris said in Exodus:
@sparky 100% on your coms especially when we have seen the likes of Samipeni Finau given countless opportunites , i know he plays a different position but it does bring into question what pictures forward mystro Jason Ryan is looking at
If Ryan had a major hand in blocking Sotutu he can fuck off with the rest of them. At a time we are lamenting a lack of size and ability to go forward, we let this guy go, and still in his prime. Good luck to him, he re-signed in the hope of playing for the ABs, now he has resigned himself to playing in white instead
Of course Ryan did, he picks the pack. He would have coached him in 2022 and obviously decided there and then that it didn't matter what Sotutu did after that season, he was never getting another go.
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@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
@Steven-Harris said in Exodus:
@sparky 100% on your coms especially when we have seen the likes of Samipeni Finau given countless opportunites , i know he plays a different position but it does bring into question what pictures forward mystro Jason Ryan is looking at
If Ryan had a major hand in blocking Sotutu he can fuck off with the rest of them. At a time we are lamenting a lack of size and ability to go forward, we let this guy go, and still in his prime. Good luck to him, he re-signed in the hope of playing for the ABs, now he has resigned himself to playing in white instead
Of course Ryan did, he picks the pack. He would have coached him in 2022 and obviously decided there and then that it didn't matter what Sotutu did after that season, he was never getting another go.
Yeah I'd agree with that. The caveat was there to satisfy some of our posters who will pull us up for posing hearsay as fact
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It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
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@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Pretty amateurish way to do it if so. Could have easily called him personally (like GH did to Reuben Thorne). Or left him alone to play the big game with a clear head
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Pretty amateurish way to do it if so. Could have easily called him personally (like GH did to Reuben Thorne). Or left him alone to play the big game with a clear head
Hmmm yeah interesting way to go about things.....
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Not sure the logic of that stands up.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Not sure the logic of that stands up.
As logical as trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before the final I would have thought.
It was most likely some twat wanted to be the first to spread the news and not giving two shits about the timing.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Not sure the logic of that stands up.
As logical as trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before the final I would have thought.
It was most likely some twat wanted to be the first to spread the news and not giving two shits about the timing.
Someone within the coaching group or management group had to have leaked the information
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Not sure the logic of that stands up.
As logical as trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before the final I would have thought.
It was most likely some twat wanted to be the first to spread the news and not giving two shits about the timing.
Nah man there's absolutely no logic that they would want a player they are snubbing to have a fuck you performance. Not like they can then reverse their decision and say I told you so.
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@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@Crazy-Horse said in Exodus:
@African-Monkey said in Exodus:
It goes without saying that Scott Robertson's treatment of Hoskins Sotutu has been appalling
The leaking of Sotutu’s non selection in multiple places less than 2 hours before the 2024 SR final was really shitty. Some real low quality people in and near the AB management
Trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before a big game.
I actually don't remember this funnily enough.
Or maybe they hoped the news might give the Blues (and certain players) inspiration to put in a 'fuck you' performance, which they sort of did.
Not sure the logic of that stands up.
As logical as trying to cause disharmony in the Blues camp before the final I would have thought.
It was most likely some twat wanted to be the first to spread the news and not giving two shits about the timing.
Nah man there's absolutely no logic that they would want a player they are snubbing to have a fuck you performance. Not like they can then reverse their decision and say I told you so.
It all depends on who knew the squad at the time it was leaked. If it was just the tight coaches group them, yep, it doesn't make sense. But if more people than them knew the squad, or at least had some hints around it, then the leak could have come from anywhere and the motivation could be anything.
The leak could also have been a lucky guess. I don't recall the leak, but was it the entire squad or was it just that a certain couple of players didn't make it?
