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  • DuluthD Offline
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    #94

    I like the round of 16

    Group stage generally sucks. Shorter pool play and getting to knock outs quicker is more interesting

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    look, i have never understood why it has to be done this early, the FIFA world cup draw, which involves a far larger number of people, hasn't even been done yet for a tournament that starts in July.

    If it was me, i would do away with the bands all together and just have open slather. Imagine SA, NZ and France all in one pool? Italy making the final having beaten nobody ranked higher than 12th? Great fun.

    But we should all remember, these are revenue raising exercises disguised as sporting tournaments

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    But we should all remember, these are revenue raising exercises disguised as sporting tournaments

    Which is precisely why they should focus on quality. Should be 16 teams at most, with a proper seeding structure assessed as late as possible.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    cutting down your world wide broadcasting money there Tim.

    Every team barring the winner and the hosts should have to qualify as well. Get the top teams to stop playing each other every fucking year, and get them out to the minnows.

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    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    world wide broadcasting money

    Japan would still make it. Probably USA and Canada. What markets are you worried about? Uruguay, Hong Kong, Namibia, Spain? About $10k revenue?

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @Tim said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    world wide broadcasting money

    Japan would still make it. Probably USA and Canada. What markets are you worried about? Uruguay, Hong Kong, Namibia, Spain? About $10k revenue?

    If you're going to have the extra teams, have a plate competition. Adjust the prize money based on how far teams get in the plate too

    This was the prize money last time around

    Pool stage £250,000
    Quarterfinals £600,000
    Semifinals £1.2m
    Runners-up £2.5m
    Final £4.8m

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  • PNP Offline
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    Draw was rigged. You can't honestly believe that the country names pasted on a ping pong ball were unidentifiable from each other.

    nevermind that the bucket was wide open while he was standing there for 5+ minutes.

    Add to the fact that he is not exactly independent given his position.

    Huge joke from the desperate NH sods that run WR.

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    @Tim said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    world wide broadcasting money

    Japan would still make it. Probably USA and Canada. What markets are you worried about? Uruguay, Hong Kong, Namibia, Spain? About $10k revenue?

    USA wouldn't make it. They are the reason we expanded to 24 teams, so they can scrape in to the one they are hosting in 2031.

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    @barbarian said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    @Tim said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    @mariner4life said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    world wide broadcasting money

    Japan would still make it. Probably USA and Canada. What markets are you worried about? Uruguay, Hong Kong, Namibia, Spain? About $10k revenue?

    USA wouldn't make it. They are the reason we expanded to 24 teams, so they can scrape in to the one they are hosting in 2031.

    Isn't it easier just to give hosts automatic entry?

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  • M Offline
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    @Bones said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    Don't really get the whinging, chances are we still have to beat SA in the final anyway

    The issue here is the cumulative effect.
    Do I think we can beat the saffas in the quarters, sure.
    But the saffas, then France, then England, in 15 days . . . that's a smasha-a-thon.

    Even the saffas cant be thrilled about the prospect.

    Definitely could have lucked an easier way.

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    replied to taniwharugby last edited by
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    @taniwharugby

    Haha

    I had a close look at the draw a few weeks ago.
    And saw that a SA v NZ quarter was a very real possibility. Pools CD would have done it too.
    And I started thinking . . . I hope that doesn't happen.
    But it did.
    I jinxed it!

    I mentioned it somewhere at the time . . . that this was a random draw . . . not like a tennis draw.

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    @mohikamo which makes the draw look even more like it has been designed to give one of England/Ireland the best shot of making it to the semi/final and possibly win.

    Rankings are bragging rights, but WR give the impression they are used when doing the draw, which is the ridiculous part.

    There are not enough competitive teams in the game for them to put us in 'bands' and do the draw as it is.

    The fact that one of SA or NZ will likely be gone at 1/4 final time, and possibly the other at semi-final time, does provide ammo for anyone who sees WR in the NH as doing thier best to stuff SH rugby.

    But hey, if we manage to get past SA, France and then England (cos Ireland lose thier 1/4 haha) then Razors depth goal of 4 players in each position will have come to fruition!

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  • voodooV Offline
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    It’s absolutely stupid. Rugby hating itself again and again

    Sure we are #1 and #2 now and may not be in a years time - but if the draw has to be done now then it’s the best info we have. And every sensible tournament since time began tries to have the best players/teams meet as late as possible, ideally in a final where we get to see the best against the best on the biggest stage.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    If Robinson had pulled out the ball with NZ or SA early we wouldn't be having this conversation. I did find it strange that they went from Pool F to A for all bands.

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    @Bovidae is this rugby thinking it is much bigger and more competitive than it is?

    An unseeded draw might work in football given the wider competitive base, but even they dont do a random draw.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    Why not just allocate the top 6 to pools based on current rankings in a way that looks best like it’ll keep 1 and 2 apart longest, then have a draw for all the rest to make up the pools?

    That way we avoid this situation, and still get a chance for a fun lopsided pool with 3 competitive teams that probably weren’t going to make it all the way anyway

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    The problem is that WR thinks they need to do the draw so early relative to the start of the RWC. It's a joke when you compare the timeframe FIFA works to. The compromise and sensible thing to do is that you only determine the teams in each pool at this stage and then assign them a letter (Pool A, B, C etc) based on the current world rankings of the Band A team. So a random draw and then a logical system to keep the top teams apart until the SFs.

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  • voodooV Offline
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    @Bovidae That's an ADDITIONAL solve - the fact that they're doing it now is dumb, but it does not mean they have to double down on their stupidity like this

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  • PNP Offline
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    replied to voodoo last edited by PN
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    @voodoo said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    Why not just allocate the top 6 to pools based on current rankings in a way that looks best like it’ll keep 1 and 2 apart longest, then have a draw for all the rest to make up the pools?

    That way we avoid this situation, and still get a chance for a fun lopsided pool with 3 competitive teams that probably weren’t going to make it all the way anyway

    They can't break the cup monopoly on the field, and have to enlist help via back boadroom shenanigans

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    replied to Bovidae last edited by
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    @Bovidae said in Rugby World Cup 2027 Draw - LIVE:

    If Robinson had pulled out the ball with NZ or SA early we wouldn't be having this conversation. I did find it strange that they went from Pool F to A for all bands.

    Australia were already in A

    They wanted to leave the hosts fate dangling

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