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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

    Razor rang rings around them for years in super rugby

    Hansen runs rings around them ....

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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:

    But I think the issue is that not that coaches aren’t willing to work with Razor, it’s that the standard of coaches in general within NZ is atrocious. Razor rang rings around them for years in super rugby and it’s no surprise that if he’s not up to it, the rest won’t be

    While I agree in part with you on the standard of coaches in NZ (a lot seems to be down to lack of development & retention planning by NZR), not sure I agree with you that coaches outside of NZ don't have the goods.

    If, as you say, Robertson doesn't trust or want to work with people like Joe Schmidt, Joseph, Cotter or Gilbert Enoka as he doesn't think they're good or trustworthy enough, it really doesn't speak well of Robertson's rugby nous or ability to lead.. Not sure I agree with you on that, but it's an interesting view.

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    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
    . Razor rang rings around them for years in super rugby and it’s no surprise that if he’s not up to it, the rest won’t be.

    Yeah well not according to Crusaders CEO who reckons a lot most it was down to the young talent unearthed by Aaron Webb.
    But, as Crusaders chief executive Colin Mansbridge said: “Everyone goes ‘Razor, Razor, Razor’, maybe there should be more ‘Webby, Webby, Webby’.”

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    Yeah well not according to Crusaders CEO who reckons a lot most it was down to the young talent unearthed by Aaron Webb.
    But, as Crusaders chief executive Colin Mansbridge said: “Everyone goes ‘Razor, Razor, Razor’, maybe there should be more ‘Webby, Webby, Webby’.”

    There's no "should" in rugby, young man.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    Yeah well not according to Crusaders CEO who reckons a lot most it was down to the young talent unearthed by Aaron Webb.
    But, as Crusaders chief executive Colin Mansbridge said: “Everyone goes ‘Razor, Razor, Razor’, maybe there should be more ‘Webby, Webby, Webby’.”

    There's no "should" in rugby, young man.

    Touche' mate.

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    There's no "should" in rugby, young man.

    Touche' mate.

    You're a good sport, sir.

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    @mohikamo said in All Blacks 2026:

    @ShaquilleOatmeal

    Not sure exactly what you asked AI, but I was around for all of these teams.

    1967-70
    All of these teams were good. Supremely confident we would win every game..
    Some saffas consider the 1970 AB team as better than the 1974 BI Lions team that beat them 4 zip.
    I was confident we could beat SA in SA for the first time. A total contrast to how I feel 26.
    Surprised we lost, but probably should not have been. The boks were good and they had a bit of extra assistance, of course.

    1971
    We were definitely on the slide a bit this year.
    The third test in particular was a bit of a new experience as a youngster.
    That game reminds me a bit of some of the losses in 25. Was goin "what the fuck happened!" We had nuthin.

    1972
    Was ok, all wins, but the wins were like wins in 25, none were emphatic.

    1973
    This was a bad year. Not for just onfield stuff. SA were meant to tour, but the govt came over the top and canned it.
    Then we lost to an England team in their pre-season! (I think this was a hastily arranged subsitute game.)
    Just about the worst AB loss ever!
    The ABs also had a bit of an internal tour, which was complete BS, and no one was really interested.

    1994
    94 was actually more of a concern to me than 98. Really starting to have my doubts about Laurie Mains. A bit like my thoughts about Razor now. What happened in 95 was an unexpected turn around. And the turnaround seems to have been driven by the players (Laurie getting some player buy-in). Maybe something like that could happen this year.?

    1998
    The opposition was good; but we were ok. Could have won all the games. Thought we could turn this around easily.
    Not the feeling I had in 25.

    2025
    In 25 I thought when we ran into a good team playing well, we had no chance. Probably never had that feeling with an AB team before.

    The main problem with the 1998 team was the lineout. Anton Oliver could not throw properly. He was fine in the loose but incredibly poor at throwing. There were a lot of bloody good players in that team.

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    Unfortunately this article is behind a paywall, but it could be the reasoning Beaudy continues to have the stranglehold on the AB 10 jersey.

    Can someone on here access it?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-business-of-the-all-blacks-beauden-barrett-and-the-124-billion-american-business-giant-that-helped-pull-new-zealand-rugby-out-of-a-jam/premium/GVOVEVXDNVBJDCJZ6QBHG6PA6A/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZnRzaAPQRe1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEecBoE-dhKKffPL_-8Ar-hss59pqsMY7vuzobVQ7m52zcctNyBeWP5DZfzOdQ_aem_SIe7kBEH-9AwP7-f8nfMlA#Echobox=1767925392

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    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2026:

    @jimmyb said in All Blacks 2026:
    . Razor rang rings around them for years in super rugby and it’s no surprise that if he’s not up to it, the rest won’t be.

    Yeah well not according to Crusaders CEO who reckons a lot most it was down to the young talent unearthed by Aaron Webb.
    But, as Crusaders chief executive Colin Mansbridge said: “Everyone goes ‘Razor, Razor, Razor’, maybe there should be more ‘Webby, Webby, Webby’.”

    Yes, agreed. The crusaders operation ran rings around other organisations. Being better in virtually every aspect of an organisation against your rivals will see you dominate them.

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    @DurryMexted If it is the case that BB is only there because of this relationship, I doubt this is what Razor decided, this would have come from the top of NZR telling him BB must play...

    I would also doubt, the head of that corporate that invested millions would have any expectations on who the ABs should select week in week out, especially as it could potentially impact the eyeballs seeing his brand if the teams he is sponsoring continues to splutter.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2026:

    @DurryMexted If it is the case that BB is only there because of this relationship, I doubt this is what Razor decided, this would have come from the top of NZR telling him BB must play...

    I would also doubt, the head of that corporate that invested millions would have any expectations on who the ABs should select week in week out, especially as it could potentially impact the eyeballs seeing his brand if the teams he is sponsoring continues to splutter.

    They might not have expectations on should play, but it would be expected for the ABs to showcase a 'super star' at corporate gigs. It would then be strange if that 'super star' didn't actually play many games. Besides BB, and to a lesser extent Ardie, this AB team arguably doesn't yet have any other 'super stars'.

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    @Crazy-Horse although anyone who knows rugby at these corporate gigs would also know these stars are fading, and wonder why Roigard and/or Holland arent there instead 😉

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:

    They might not have expectations on should play, but it would be expected for the ABs to showcase a 'super star' at corporate gigs. It would then be strange if that 'super star' didn't actually play many games. Besides BB, and to a lesser extent Ardie, this AB team arguably doesn't yet have any other 'super stars'.

    The other players were ALB and QT. I think they just selected some players who could construct a coherent sentence. There’s not many options

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:

    They might not have expectations on should play, but it would be expected for the ABs to showcase a 'super star' at corporate gigs. It would then be strange if that 'super star' didn't actually play many games. Besides BB, and to a lesser extent Ardie, this AB team arguably doesn't yet have any other 'super stars'.

    The other players were ALB and QT. I think they just selected some players who could construct a coherent sentence. There’s not many options

    Good point. I forgot about them.

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    General advisory: please do not breach copyright by copying and pasting large swathes of paywalled articles on the Fern.

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