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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    @Crazy-Horse although anyone who knows rugby at these corporate gigs would also know these stars are fading, and wonder why Roigard and/or Holland arent there instead 😉

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:

    They might not have expectations on should play, but it would be expected for the ABs to showcase a 'super star' at corporate gigs. It would then be strange if that 'super star' didn't actually play many games. Besides BB, and to a lesser extent Ardie, this AB team arguably doesn't yet have any other 'super stars'.

    The other players were ALB and QT. I think they just selected some players who could construct a coherent sentence. There’s not many options

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:

    They might not have expectations on should play, but it would be expected for the ABs to showcase a 'super star' at corporate gigs. It would then be strange if that 'super star' didn't actually play many games. Besides BB, and to a lesser extent Ardie, this AB team arguably doesn't yet have any other 'super stars'.

    The other players were ALB and QT. I think they just selected some players who could construct a coherent sentence. There’s not many options

    Good point. I forgot about them.

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    General advisory: please do not breach copyright by copying and pasting large swathes of paywalled articles on the Fern.

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2026:

    Unfortunately this article is behind a paywall, but it could be the reasoning Beaudy continues to have the stranglehold on the AB 10 jersey.

    Can someone on here access it?

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/the-business-of-the-all-blacks-beauden-barrett-and-the-124-billion-american-business-giant-that-helped-pull-new-zealand-rugby-out-of-a-jam/premium/GVOVEVXDNVBJDCJZ6QBHG6PA6A/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=nzh_fb&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZnRzaAPQRe1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEecBoE-dhKKffPL_-8Ar-hss59pqsMY7vuzobVQ7m52zcctNyBeWP5DZfzOdQ_aem_SIe7kBEH-9AwP7-f8nfMlA#Echobox=1767925392

    Not available on the Wayback machine yet. But the company must be Gallagher Insurance.

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    Clearly why BB got the max contract and not RM.

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    Heard from someone on this site that Beauden Barrett was continually preferred because the high ups wanted him picked due to marketability or some shit. (Ardie too). I am not sure if I can believe the process has become that corrupted. If it has, we're screwed.

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    Heard from someone on this site that Beauden Barrett was continually preferred because the high ups wanted him picked due to marketability or some shit. (Ardie too). I am not sure if I can believe the process has become that corrupted. If it has, we're screwed.

    Don't worry Frank, if I believed even a 10th of reasons why some players are picked, I would be in a spin. I would say anyone who said it was talking shit to you mate. Geez it easy to see how rumours start isn't it?
    FFS Marketability is better from winning teams than anything.
    F*** me there was a rumour in late 80s that David Kirk was AB captain, because he would attract young girls to supporter base, and that was a rumour in paper!!

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    Heard from someone on this site that Beauden Barrett was continually preferred because the high ups wanted him picked due to marketability or some shit. (Ardie too). I am not sure if I can believe the process has become that corrupted. If it has, we're screwed.

    I guess we can only speculate at this stage until somebody fesses up. It's either that to explain BB's continued selection, or multiple coaches being too thick to see what seems pretty obvious to the average punter.

    Maybe it's us punters who are the stupid ones?

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    Heard from someone on this site that Beauden Barrett was continually preferred because the high ups wanted him picked due to marketability or some shit. (Ardie too). I am not sure if I can believe the process has become that corrupted. If it has, we're screwed.

    I guess we can only speculate at this stage until somebody fesses up. It's either that to explain BB's continued selection, or multiple coaches being too thick to see what seems pretty obvious to the average punter.

    Maybe it's us punters who are the stupid ones?

    Well there is a lot of stupid punters that is for sure .
    If will come unravelling sooner than latter.
    If the coaches who keep picking BB it must be because he is playing really well as there are a lot of coaches backing him.
    Or?

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    @Frank said in All Blacks 2026:

    Heard from someone on this site that Beauden Barrett was continually preferred because the high ups wanted him picked due to marketability or some shit. (Ardie too). I am not sure if I can believe the process has become that corrupted. If it has, we're screwed.

    ive faired variations of this for a while....at very least i think that the coaches get pressure to name players that have signed long contracts....so it seems like it was worth it...no business will want to pay big buck for someone to sit in the stands

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    TBH, I don't believe this conspiracy theory, if Richie Razor Jnr Mo'unga was in NZ all this time he would have been starting.

    No coach is going to stay in a job where they're being dictated by marketing over team selection. Surely Razor is not that much of a yes man ....

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    @Nepia you might be right...but there are also only so many top tier coaching jobs out there and generally people want to keep their job

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    So review is done for ABs and decision is on hold if Razor and coaches carry on apparently there is a get together with players and coaches next week and nothing confirmed yet if it goes ahead.

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    @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Nepia you might be right...but there are also only so many top tier coaching jobs out there and generally people want to keep their job

    I think Razor could have found alternative employment pretty easily if he didn't want to be a yes man.

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    TBH, I don't believe this conspiracy theory, if Richie Razor Jnr Mo'unga was in NZ all this time he would have been starting.

    We'll never know how it would have played out over the last couple of years, but we will get an indication next year. I suspect BB would have still featured heavily if RM was around. I reckon DMac would have been the one missing out.

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    It’s quite easy to see how marketability would influence a player’s contract. That definitely happens around the world in various sports and competitions. When it comes to actual team selection, however, marketability should become almost a non-factor - winning becomes everything at some point.

    Once a player is in the team or under contract, it does become easier to select them though. As mentioned earlier, if they’re being paid a lot, that investment needs to be justified in certain people's eyes and if it comes down to a close call with no other player clearly better (and I’m not suggesting that with Barrett and Savea), it’s easy to see how the player on the bigger contract, or who is seen as more marketable, can get the nod.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2026:

    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2026:

    TBH, I don't believe this conspiracy theory, if Richie Razor Jnr Mo'unga was in NZ all this time he would have been starting.

    We'll never know how it would have played out over the last couple of years, but we will get an indication next year. I suspect BB would have still featured heavily if RM was around. I reckon DMac would have been the one missing out.

    Well we know RM would have been the number 1 (why pretend otherwise), and I agree with you that DMac would have missed out.

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